Television Game of Thrones

[Kenickie]

(TV show ep 10)

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I'd argue that by being anti ____ she actually nearly divided the clan, killed her precious drogo and nearly got herself killed and raped as well. Everyone was pissed off with her and sick of her leading. I think she did it for good and not at all for the clan, or any alterior motive..

i can't answer you without talking about the book, but no.

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

book

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who is going to tell her? Viserys sure as fuck wouldn't. why would Illeryo say anything bad? Jorah wants to bed her, he won't say anything. No one seems to be around to tell her shit. I guess she could have read it in the books Jorah gave her, but I'm sure the notion that her father was king king = good, king overthrown = bad is so firmly planted in her head that there is no getting it out now. although perhaps -- she did know Viserys wasn't a good person, and wouldn't have made a good king, so perhaps later, as she learns more about ruling, her mind will change.

(Book 2)

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In the house of the undying, she saw a Targaryen in the house of the undying, sitting on a barbed throne in a hall with dragon skulls, saying "Let him be the king of ashes".

It doesn't take much to figure out that vision. She knows some of the other visions were of the past. It's not like her other visions, where only the reader could hope to figure out who she saw.

(Book 3)

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Barristan tells her of her father.

She should know.

 

[qwe]

*steps into film&television forum hoping there is something new to watch*

*sees this*

 

[Wordswords]

If you think of the magic in an elemental and alchemical way and add alot of imagination, you might be able to see Game of Thrones in a somewhat science-fictionesque style.

 

[ocean]

I am LOVING Escher's spoilers!
Give me more!
:D

 

[aanallein]

book 3 spoiler

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Man the plot is really slowing down right now..

 

[Kenickie]

niggas, niggas...

HOLY SHIT YES. forget leisure time. i'm supposed to be on 'vacation' right now, but just had to come back and say holy shit yes i have the card game. Best present I've ever gotten. Thanks patrick <t

awesome, but sad that:

no greyjoy deck, no martell deck, those are both expansion packs. also, you're supposed to go on forever and ever and buy 'chapter' packs that come out once a month and tailor your decks to your preferences --- my favourite house is Baratheon, and want more Baratheon related events (Stannis and Renly especially), but definitely want more more Greyjoy :D of course, so the greyjoy expansion is 4095834967534985734$$$, but i assume it will be worth it. I don't know about the other expansions, but holy shit yes is it going to happen.

 

[qwe]

just finished episode 7, after 10 i'm going to go back and re-read some.

awesome.

p.s. the tyrion and his trial... awesome.

 

[Crankinit]

Can't believe we're going to have to wait another year for more

 

[Oxycondone]

Can't believe we're going to have to wait another year for more

I know hey... I wonder if there is any chance HBO may speed it up due to the fab reviews and great ratings (viewing numbers).

 

[Crankinit]

We can hope! But I doubt it

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

You should really read the books.

They have some great stuff in them.

Speaking of which, I finished rereading book #2, and something occured to me:

(Book 2 - some not-so-minor spoilers)

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Who was behind the Mandon Moore's attempt on Tyrion's life? Tyrion assumes Cersei. Not a bad guess, since Moore was a member of the Kingsguard, and threatened Joffrey, but I'm not so sure. Cersei had a chance of finishing up the attempt as Tyrion laid recovering. I don't know why she would not. He's incapacitated, and gravely wounded. Seems like it would be easy enough to kill him directly or get another of her lackeys to do it. Littlefinger is probably a better suspect, but why take out Tyrion then? It could be a long-range plan by him, who knows... Also, the same problem applies as Cersei -- he should have the power to finish him off.

Which leaves me with two other suspects, one far more likely than the other:

1. Joffrey. Obviously he resents his uncle. He could easily ask a member of the King's Guard to attack Tyrion. Yet he may not have the power to clandestinely finish him off. (Subterfuge really isn't Joffrey's way. He's too dumb for it.) And we all know Joffrey is the killer.

Then the dark horse candidate:

2. Lysa. Moore is from the Vale, and Lysa's paranoid. I wouldn't put it past her. And Tyrion is the Lannister she's likely to consider a large threat, due to her trying to kill him. But does she have enough influence over Moore?

 

[aanallein]

Good question. I have another.. as of midway through book 3..

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I don't think we've found out for sure who hired the assassin to kill Bran. I can't remember if this is ever made clear. I assumed Cersei or Jaime but didn't they at one point deny it to Tyrion?

 

[marissaaaaaa]

season finale wasn't as action packed/tense as i thought it would be, but good none the less. it didn't help that i accidentally stumbled upon the fate of daenerys this far, so that wasn't a surprise. i can't wait till next season! i'm gunna have to invest in the first book soon. hmm things i loved about the episode: 1) of courseee the last scene with daenerys, even though i knew it was gunna happen it was still amazing. 2) everyone bowing down to rob chanting "KING OF THE NORTH!" 3) tyroin (spell check much lol) knocking down the wine glass saying "there's your peace." and his perspective on ned's beheading.

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

Good question. I have another.. as of midway through book 3..

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I don't think we've found out for sure who hired the assassin to kill Bran. I can't remember if this is ever made clear. I assumed Cersei or Jaime but didn't they at one point deny it to Tyrion?

I'm not sure what book this was from, but here's the answer:

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Joffrey is almost certain to have done it. Jamie would most likely kill him himself (as Tyrion thinks at one point, IIRC), and Cersei isn't dumb enough to give the cutthroat a Valyrian dagger. Joffrey overheard his father say that death was better. And Joffrey is a complete monster.

 

[Kenickie]

I'm not sure what book this was from, but here's the answer:

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Joffrey is almost certain to have done it. Jamie would most likely kill him himself (as Tyrion thinks at one point, IIRC), and Cersei isn't dumb enough to give the cutthroat a Valyrian dagger. Joffrey overheard his father say that death was better. And Joffrey is a complete monster.

yep, i think it's at the end of book 3 we learn this.

 

[Oxycondone]

You should really read the books.

They have some great stuff in them.

Yup going to do that Don't know whether I want to read ahead of the TV series or not, I guess I'll decide when I've finished the first book. i'd love to have a deeper understanding of what is going on but at the same time I'm worried reading the book may ruin the TV show, if only a bit, as books generally do.

 

[Crankinit]

As much as I love both, I'd say better to have the books ruin the TV series than the TV series ruin the books.

 

[Kenickie]

Yup going to do that Don't know whether I want to read ahead of the TV series or not, I guess I'll decide when I've finished the first book. i'd love to have a deeper understanding of what is going on but at the same time I'm worried reading the book may ruin the TV show, if only a bit, as books generally do.

i think it's important to have some idea of what's going on.

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

I completely dug the first season. I didn't realize it was based on books until wiki'ing some stuff that left me confused from the show. How do the books correspond to what was in the first episode? I don't want to read too far ahead (even though I probably will if I enjoy the books).

Book wise, book #1 (A Game of Thrones) is basically season one of HBO. Off the top of my head, I have two quibbles:

(Book spoilers commence)

#1

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First one is Lyanna Stark, and what happened to her. The series skips it over. Probably due to complexity. But a lot of the fanbase has their own theories about this, and the "bloody bed" that she died in.

#2

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Tyrion's battle scene. In the books, it was so much better. His father chooses him to lead one of the forces, composed of the hill tribes and other unsavory forces. Tyrion actually does quite well, and his forces are victorious. Which his father didn't expect, since he expected them to fall, and the only reason he asked his son to lead them was to make it look like a credible attack. Yes, Tywin was going to sacrifice his son to win a battle.