Stimulants Gabapentin(neurontin) makes meth better

[SunThatShines]

*Attention Mods, I've searched and found no results to answer my question.*


I thought it was BS, but Gabapentin truely does make methamphetamine more euphoric/intense. Why is this?

I realized a few other people have realized this here on bluelight, but I've also realized that not many people are aware of this....

 

[laCster]

eh, gabapentin is comparable to a saltine crackers with the same effects... how much do you usually dose? gabapentin and lyrica give me a benzo like high, and i love klonopin with speed, makes the high much cleaner and smoother, and allowing for a more tolerable come down..

 

[SunThatShines]

eh, gabapentin is comparable to a saltine crackers with the same effects... how much do you usually dose? gabapentin and lyrica give me a benzo like high, and i love klonopin with speed, makes the high much cleaner and smoother, and allowing for a more tolerable come down..

you think gabapentin is comparable to a saltine cracker? Gabapentin is in fact recreational to some users. I actually prefer gabapentin over lyrica. IMO lyrica is the same exact thing as gabapentin except its a little stronger/concentrated and more expensive. Gabapentin gives me a benzo like feeling but also a slight stimulating/cloudy effect. It's quite interesting.

 

[ugly]

I don't do speed anymore but I have been prescribed gabapentin for Restless Legs. It's the real thing. RLS takes over every evening. I hate kicking violently. I hate not sleeping but laying there wanting SO BADLY to fall asleep.

Tonight I made a very strange *trail-mix-for-the-mind* of the gabapentin, muscle relaxers, and lorazepam. I spaced it out fairly well. I'm higher than I have ever been. (Did I mention the weed? I have been medicating with medicinal marijuana, naturally.

I'm having some marvelous visuals right now. I look around and do not see the room I am in. I see a very tiny cabin. I can see and hear my parents. (Alive, just 500 miles from me.) Talking but not communicating.

I won't bore you with the details. I can see some people walking around in my vision kitchen. IRL I am in a little bedroom. My mind is creating a sweeter environment to where I have access to meeting sweeter people.

alrighty then... my bedroom is a pig pen. I have to clean it out. Also I'm going to have to get off of this board and deal with the people everywhere in my room... asking me questions and making noise... all figments of my imagination.... and all veerrrrrrry interestion



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[gman7104]

Lyrica and Gabapentin enhance a lot of drugs. The pharmacology is a mystery and clearly unlike traditional drugs.

One time I took lyrica with amphetamine, felt like i was rolling balls. Lyrica and gabapentin enhance serotonin in some way. They can act as a downer or an upper, it depends on what state your in.

 

[down508]

I don't do speed anymore but I have been prescribed gabapentin for Restless Legs. It's the real thing. RLS takes over every evening. I hate kicking violently. I hate not sleeping but laying there wanting SO BADLY to fall asleep.

Tonight I made a very strange *trail-mix-for-the-mind* of the gabapentin, muscle relaxers, and lorazepam. I spaced it out fairly well. I'm higher than I have ever been. (Did I mention the weed? I have been medicating with medicinal marijuana, naturally.

lorazepam is the least trippy of the three. it's so untrippy if you take it while tripping on a psychadelic it can kill the trip.

weed is the trippiest of the 4 drugs you mention in your post. in the right environment it can create some very interesting hallucenations, although they are usually close eyed.

I think all the above drugs combined are putting you in a state where you are half asleep, or your brain thinks you are asleep and it is dreaming. happens on opiates such as heroin occasionally
I'm having some marvelous visuals right now. I look around and do not see the room I am in. I see a very tiny cabin. I can see and hear my parents. (Alive, just 500 miles from me.) Talking but not communicating.

I won't bore you with the details. I can see some people walking around in my vision kitchen. IRL I am in a little bedroom. My mind is creating a sweeter environment to where I have access to meeting sweeter people.

alrighty then... my bedroom is a pig pen. I have to clean it out. Also I'm going to have to get off of this board and deal with the people everywhere in my room... asking me questions and making noise... all figments of my imagination.... and all veerrrrrrry interestion



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this is an odd reaction. gabapentin is any thing but a hallucinogen. I think of it as a combination of downer and upper effects. you get jittery like on speed, talk loads of bullshit, but you're also relaxed and can fall asleep fine.

as for the muscle relaxers, those are usually very untrippy, I'm assuming your talking about cyclobenzaprine?

lorazepam is one of the least trippy drugs. it's actually classified as an antipsychotic because it kills any psychadelic effects you may be experiencing, whether they are drug induced or the product of mental illness.

weed is the trippiest drug you mentioned, in the right setting one can have very intense hallucenations although they are typicaly closed eye.

I think you experienced an effect that was caused by all the downers you took. gabapentin causes wildly intensified and more vivid dreams in my experience. I think your body was so relaxed from the loraz and muscle relaxants that it thought it was asleep and you started having dreams while still semi conscious. many people experience this effect on heroin, even though the drug isn't hallucinogenic it puts you in a state of mind that allows you to dream like you were awake.

diphenhydramine is known to cause similar deleriant effects.

 

[ugly]

Really, down?

I didn't know diphenhydramine had that capability. I wasn't able to enjoy the experience as long as I would have liked. I picked up an intensely heavy indica last week and the effects are deep. I fell asleep, and just woke up to find it is the afternoon.

I came back to see what I wrote and look at the experience I had from a sober point of view. So many interesting ideas and visions in one night leaves me wanting to examine them with a sober mind. Last night I doubled up on my gabapentin and I'm glad I did, if that was helpful to put me in a new headspace.

I was down the rabbit hole. I'm going to review my night through all the notes I took and look for insight. It will be a long time before I put myself out that far again.

 

[laCster]

LMAO @ my post from 2 years ago. such an old thread...but...

i LOVE lyrica/gabapentin with my vyvanse/adderall!!! some good shit mang'

 

[PookiePioneer]

Coffee and aspirin makes meth more intense WAY more and a stogie ;DD

 

[laCster]

caffeine on amphetamines is not fun. cigs on the other hand.... ill be smoking like a chimney!

 

[ErgicMergic]

Not only does it make amphetamines more comfortable for some people, it makes quitting amphetamines a breeze.

I believe you start at 2-3g gabapentin/day and slowly taper down to 1200mg/day, then to 900-600-300mg/day. Keep in mind that lyrica is three times as powerful as gabapentin, and is more euphoric and BBB-concentrated.

I got off amphetamimes by using the staggering gabapentin method. Then tapered to 1200mg gabapentin and comfort with loperamide. Loperamide does cross the blood brain barrier but is then pumped back out by pgp. Used a combo of pgp inhibitors in the form of quinine and hydroxyzine hcl. This method was sufficient to get comfortably off all amphetamines in less than a month. Study group was
100% successful with only one relapse 2 months out.

^Dextermeth replied "I wish I hadn't read that but I'm glad I did," meaning that he didn't want to make quitting seem possible since he didn't actually want to believe there's such an easy way to discontinue and stay off of amphetamines.

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

I didn't read the thread( so very very tired, this is the last thing I do before bed, but I have this to say. When I was scripted neurontin for pain i was scripted 3 x 300mg gelcaps a day, I never really messed with it, it doesnt give anything fun to me other than feeling really weird/out of it but still sober. Anyways, I took it this way from 2006 to 2009 and I have enjoyed stims way more back then when I was on it. Meth pills (classic canadian white methbombs), amps (Dexedrine, Adderall XR) and smoking my own freebase was awesome and easy to do then.

Now the idea of taking most of these, especially smoking freebase scares the hell out of me since i'm off gabapentin. It's just as well, that thing was aggravating my ADD : Inattentive type badly in retrospect.