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Gabapentin 5ish grams cyclobenzaprine 30mg very exp- it became a psychedelic!

rangrz

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So, I decided to swallow a bunch of random pills, as I frequently do. Being use to gabapentin (Been RXed it for almost two years) both subjectively and objectively (I know a good deal about pharmacology from my undergrad degree) and having enjoyed it doses from 1 gram to 3sh gram, I decided I'd up the dose. I also figured some cyclobenzabrine could hurt and took 3 of them with it.

+0015 Start to feel light headed nothing special.
+0030 getting VERY VERY light headed, some ataxia. (difficulty moving and dong so in an uncoordinated way.)
+1:00 I am getting visuals, fractal patterns over everything open eyed, fractals and images like fluorescent skulls closed eyed. I am very tired but not sleepy. Logical thought became difficult. I was stumbling, falling down, and almost unable to physically talk, as physical effects. Laying in bed, however, was incredibly euphoric. So was walking tbh, but I was too off balance to it well. I had a lot of strong, emotional thoughts, which I can't put into words, but some where eye opening and perhaps (will) even change my behavior in the future.

This lasted for about 6 hours, at which point I just felt mildly "drunk" but nothing of note. That state lasted maybe 3 hours til I fell asleep and woke up with no after effects I could notice.

Overall, it was an excellent, euphoric, fun trip!
 
Thanks for the report. Gabapentin is an interesting drug in how variable its effects are between users. It's something you just have to try to see if you're one of the lucky ones. I've read of others experiencing psychedelic effects, too, which is intriguing given its unknown mechanism of action. Having taken my highest dose last night (2.4 g) and finding myself in a great good-humored talkative mood -- the kind of stimulation much more conducive to socializing with sober people than say, straight stims or empathogens -- I think I'm one of the lucky ones. However, the best part probably lasted 2 hours, tops.

Are these the effects you notice at around these dosage levels? How does redosing work, and at what quantaties and intervals to retain peak effects if it works reliably? Alternatively, have you combined it with any other drugs that you feel do not impact this quality of effects (I find light alcohol use best in my limited experience, but only the onset of alcohol really feels similar, and GHB redosing doesn't feel too great for me, either). Perhaps low alcohol and low MXE? Have you read of or talked with others who note these qualitative effects at lower levels also experiencing psychedelic effects at high levels? Also, were there amnestic effect? I only obtained ten 800mg pills to experiment with as I merely wanted to test my susceptibility. Getting enough more to test a 5 g dose is weeks away.
 
For me re-dosing just as I start to come down brings me back up, but more psychedelic like each re-dose and more groggy/sleepy and more pronounced ataxia. I like to re-dose every 2-3 hours in a small re-dose of like 1 gram.

I've only talked with a GF (more like a friends w benefits) about lower doses and she says the 1.2 gram range makes weed more psychedelic for her.

in the 1.2 to 2.4 gram range, I find it a great social intoxicant, far superior to alcohol or the likes.
 
I read bioavailabilty dtops w/ increased dose and that it was best to dose 300mg every 20 mins. I'm using this method currently. Once I hit 3600mg I will pop 200mg of diphenhydramine. I am logging this in my trip journal
 
interesting, because gabapentin is what one doc tried to start me on when i asked for klonopin (before i found my good doc). it isn't supposed to have any body high associated with it whatsoever, but instead gradually stimulate GABA receptors over time? maybe it's the huge amount you took, but it wouldn't be worth it to me as i have a higher tolerance/need from GABA drugs than people w/o severe anxiety.
and i'm also on flexeril which just feels like benedryl when i take too much (as opposed to feeling really loose/drunk limbed).
 
I take 1,200 mg of gabapentin a night so I could quit wakin up with back pain. Now, I am havin brain fuzz here...I have 300 mg capsules...wouldn't 3 of those come close to a gram. I believe 1,000 mg is a gram lol. I also have Flexeril so I wouldn't mind tryin this combo tonight or tmrw while hubs and kids are gone. TIA!
 
It's my recommendation to wait around a month and dose like 8g at once, no joke. Unless you are beginning to have a serious tolerance. Once the magic is gone, it's mostly gone. But until that point, very high doses are really indescribable. It's one hell of a high. It can get really trippy at times, and weed is amazing with it.
 
This seems like something to try. I have some experience with gabapentin and cyclo, but i never thought of taking them together deffinatly trying this.
 
Pregabalin will still do the trick if you become tolerant to gabapentin!

One of my favorite morning combo (on my opiate-free days) is 250 mg of Lyrica, strong coffee, theanine, rhodiola 500 mg, 16 mg of chlorpheniramine (OR orphenadrine OR mirtazapine OR benadryl...), 24 mg of ephedrine and 300 mg of SJW. On my opiate days I substitute 8 gr of fine kratom (OR 250-300 mg of CWE codeine, then I won't take the coffee coz I'll have my caffeine, OR 200 mg tramadol) for the lyrica.

Another fantastic combo (to be enjoyed once in a while only): 250 mg of lyrica, strong coffee, 8-10 gr of fine kratom, an antihistamine, ephedrine, rhodiola and SJW. In my experience, it is the most potent euphoric combo EVER. But you have to be careful with the dosing. Too much kratom will ruin it, too much pregabalin will make you too dizzy, etc. You have to know your tolerance to each substance when used alone or in combo, and you have to use a bit less than your maximum tolerable dose for each substance used alone. This combo WILL improve your mood tremendously, no matter how down you are... Cheers!
 
I am almost immune to benzos, I don't even bother trying to mess with them (have had the same bottle of valium and xanax around for a year) but Lyrica messes me up at 100mg for 20 hours or so with the first 10 being annoying. I take it for sleep when I am desperate and feel it until late morning.
Everyone is different but I wouldn't advise anyone to do more than 50-100mg Lyrica- it's not euphoric it's more like a bad drunk.
 
Yea, I did say it's important to know your tolerance... It's true that high doses of lyrica ain't so fun, unless one likes dizziness alot lol. But man, I'm not the first one sayin that pregabalin can be pretty euphoric at the right dosage. And it's no benzo, doesn't act like a benzo at all. Abuse leads to nasty wd so it shouldn't be a daily thing obviously.

To each his own of course!
 
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