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Friendships: Possibly The Truest Relationships

Pagey said:
Isn't that a really lonely way to see things?
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Yes. But it is real. Think about how friends, people with whom you have a relationship with, or even family lets you down or outright betrays you. Everyone is selfish, despite our hope that others like us, people make friends for their own benefit (although mutual benefit is possible).
 
^urgh yeah real positive.

i meet up with friends because i want them to entertain me, not to help me out in some machiavellian scheme:\

you hang around people that make you laugh, or you enjoy their company. there are people that just use you but they are not worth it. also people use you if you let them but you yourself can take the piss. its about give and take

that argument regarding friendship is just as annoying (in the opposite direction) as the individual who tried to convince our class that people do nursing out of pure altruism. no they do it to put food on the table. get real lol
 
kaywholed said:
Yes. But it is real. Think about how friends, people with whom you have a relationship with, or even family lets you down or outright betrays you. Everyone is selfish, despite our hope that others like us, people make friends for their own benefit (although mutual benefit is possible).
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I don't know, I think that's an exaggeration. Yes, we do make friends for our own benefit, that much I'll agree with, but it doesn't mean the relationship can't be genuine. I've got a couple friends that I would honestly do almost anything for and that I love more than myself and I know they feel the same way. So selfishness at the beginning maybe, but I think it can definitely turn into something more.
 
kaywholed said:
Yes. But it is real. Think about how friends, people with whom you have a relationship with, or even family lets you down or outright betrays you. Everyone is selfish, despite our hope that others like us, people make friends for their own benefit (although mutual benefit is possible).
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yeah, but haven't you let them down at times as well? have you never taken more than you gave? the best relationships (friendship, romantic, family, etc) come about not because the people never do each other wrong, but because they care enough about each other to forgive and love despite their faults.
 
^ this is what people who screw other people over say...


"Forgive, forgive, etc..."

Bullshit. Nothing will be forgiven. We'll just go our seperate ways.
 
Sometimes forgiveness is worth it. Depends what's been done. The friends I mentioned earlier have done some shit things but I'd be so much worse off without them. And I'm sure I've done some shit things to them too. But if we'd been that vindictive we'd be fucking miserable today.
 
kaywholed said:
Yes. But it is real. Think about how friends, people with whom you have a relationship with, or even family lets you down or outright betrays you. Everyone is selfish, despite our hope that others like us, people make friends for their own benefit (although mutual benefit is possible).
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the grapes of wrath turned into sour lemons.

jesus how bitter and negative is that? yes everyone has to look after themselves but dwelling on it and fashioning it into some justification for loneliness about how everyone has let you down is missing the point. i'm sure you are not perfect and have not been there for others at times. why? because you were having a life. stop looking for perfection and just enjoy what good there is to be had and appreciate the good instead of whinging about the bad.

nooneanymore said:
^ this is what people who screw other people over say...


"Forgive, forgive, etc..."

Bullshit. Nothing will be forgiven. We'll just go our seperate ways.
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another barrel of laughs;)

it depends what they did but within reason if its something minor then i'll get over it. nobodies perfect
 
i've sexed up many of my friends and that hasn't worked out so good, but a relationship forming from a friendship is often very good
 
nooneanymore said:
Your girlfriend is not your best friend she's your girlfriend.

That's what this whole thread is about. Seperating friendships from romantic relationships.
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If your girlfriend / wife / boyfriend / whatever isn't (or doesn't become) your best friend.. You're with the wrong person.
 
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