Is this seriously the only narrative you guys can come up with ? Either all of them are or none of them are ?
it's the narrative we're debating because you were the one that initially said;
And the far lest does nothing but flood our countries with refugees who either kill and rape or are down right terrorists pretending to be refugees. If those are my choices I choose far right every time.
either -
rape or
kill or
are downright terrorists.
between those 3 options, you leave no other for "the good ones".
they're your words, not mine. you asked me to prove what i was saying, using one of your quotes, so i did. it was the first of its kind as i scrolled through, and that's the one i used.
deliberately or not, that quote
does state that refugees are either murderers, rapists or terrorists.
it's not my narrative - i'm not the one talking in absolutes.
when you say that the result of refugees either rape, murder or terrorist acts, you've given us a narrative which i'm now refuting
can you see why i'm critical of that rhetoric? can you see why it's a problem for large amounts of people to actually
believe that sort of stuff is true?
of course you are going to have tensions when your country is bringing in refugees, but divisive politicians and people who support them fill people with fear, suspicion and hostility?
it means the refugees aren't given much of a chance to become a part of the community, when the original community won't allow that to happen, out of fear.
that's why the LePen approach is (set up to be) doomed - the lack of social cohesion is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
it doesn't need to be that way - people can stand up to the politics of fear and not be pushed around by demagogues.
"the left" aren't flooding your countries with refugees - war is.
war that has caused enormous regional destabilisation from the toppling of Iraq and Libya and the civil war in Syria (to name just a few places people are fleeing).
"the left" aren't to blame - the world is in a fucked up mess, with millions of people being displaced from their homes and their lives by vicious fighting across the middle east.
hardline border turnbacks are incredibly inhumane - basically just sending desperate civilians to go back where they came from, and face death from violence, exposure or starvation, or drown trying to reach land somewhere else.
it's easy to say "refugees aren't my problem" or to believe that refugees themselves are the problem - but this whole disaster is so much bigger than this issue of immigration or..."cultural compatibility" (whatever that is).
refugees are people that need help, and if they don't get help - a lot of them die.
the countries that refused asylum to shiploads of German jewish refugees during the early 1940s probably didn't feel so proud as time went on. the idea that human lives aren't worth saving for some vague fearful idea of being "flooded" with refugees (hyperbole if ever i've seen it) is just emotive, highly exaggerated mythology.
