RCs Freebasing mephedrone...?

[Deinonychus]

Hey there! Longtime bluelighter (joined in '03) now here on a new moniker since I forgot my password for the old account and the email linked to it is dead. I have never done mephedrone, and never will, not because of its current legal status but rather because of the binge horror stories, the cardiotoxic metabolites (not that meph ain't plenty cardio/neurotoxic itself), the peripheral symptoms (blue joints, peeling skin, savaged sinuses), and most of all my strong general dislike of anything resembling a straight up stim, even if it is also an euphoriant with hints of entactogenesis. I had a bad run-in with a six-month ~1 kilo cocaine habit/binge about four years back that spoiled all stims for me. And please, no dicksizing accusations: that is a shameful thing for me, not impressive or in any way cool. But I pass no judgement, if people understand the risks and weigh them favorably regarding meph, using is their personal choice. And I don't want people dictating what I should or shouldn't use, so doing the same thing myself to others would be stupic, ugly, hypocritical, etc.

But despite my choice not to use, I am very curious why certain method of administration, namely freebasing it for smoking, seems never to have cropped up. I did indeed UTFSE, and I only found a single thread that was relevant to this subject. You can find that thread here, but it is short and not very informative.

So, does anybody know why this method of administration seems to have been neglected? I've seen scads of reports of oral or intranasal use, and for plugging, IV, and even the occasional IM (Christ that must burn, and likely would damage tissue too)!

It seems to me that the compulsive nature of this substance would make it a prime candidate for freebasing. I believe that some isopropylamines can be smoked as a salt even, like meth, but I don't know how that extends to the beta-ketone analogues.

I should add a disclaimer that I'm *not* suggesting that anyone engage in this activity! This stuff is harmful enough as it is, and I imagine the more intense effects and shorter duration smoked would potentials both its addictive, compulsive nature as well as its negative physiological effects, what with administration this way being more violent on both body and mind.

So has anybody used this method of administration? And if so, what did you think of it? Would you do / have you done it multiple times? Conversely, if this method of administration is as uncommon as it sounds, would anyone care to hazard a guess as to why this is the case?

I know it may seem odd that I am this curious about a chemical that I would not touch with a 10-foot pole, but I'm a curious person in general, even more so about drugs. I was reading the mephedrone long-term side effect thread in ADD when the thought popped into my head that I had never heard of anybody smoking freebase mephedrone, ever, and so I decided to therefor enlighten myself on the subject!

Thanks guys/gals, and cheers!
Deinonychus

 

[TheAzo]

People tried it back when meph was big, but it never seemed to take off. A few people posted here about it, I forget why they didn't like it. The doses are a bit large for smoking, that's probably part of it. I tried smoking buphedrone a few years back (another cathinone, so there should be some similarity in how effective the RoA is), and it was lousy - too much nasty tasting fumes for a given amount of drug, and the effects were not markedly better than taking it orally. I believe cathinones are unstable as the free base, so you need to smoke the salt, like people do with meth...

As you may know, the related RC MDPV, though is said to be very good smoked, and a number of posts here claim that it's very addictive/compulsive/moreish/"evil"/etc through that route. I've heard that the other pyrovalerone derivatives are also good smoked.

 

[Gordon's]

Ive tried it, it was meh. threw like 200mg on some voil and vaped it. Harsh smoke and no rush. The best chems for vaporizing are defiantly the pryovalerone derivatives A-PVP is alot like MDPV when vaped.