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Forget all that other crap.. Piracetam is amazing

AylaV

AylaV

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Not since my second roll like.. more than a decade ago have I felt fucking AMAZING after a roll. It should also be noted that loss of magic was COMPLETELY reversed. Music sounded amazing, conversations were meaningful, I wasn't in control enough to obsess over stupid life issues (usually MDMA doesn't feel "in the moment" anymore and is just eye jitters, slight mood lift, and a body high on top of everything else).

Everything about that roll was magical. I can't imagine doing MDMA without piracetam again. I probably won't. I suggest this to everyone whether you've lost the magic or not, because I feel fucking AWESOME today. I can't fucking believe I'm honeymooing ALL OVER AGAIN. This is so fucking sick omggzzz. <3 <3 <3
 
I told you will love Piracetam + MDMA. It's the shit. It's like your first time again, isn't it? You're 100% about that in the moment feeling, it's like that first time when you never knew what it was like - everything seems unbelievable and the MDMA feelings are so vivid.

You make me want to roll!!!!! =D
 
Damn that sounds too good to be true. All I hear are good things about piracetam these days...hopefully I can get some funds together and order some from amazon soon. Sigh I have been meaing to try for awhile.

But I wonder how quickly a tolerence could be built to the combo? ether way i think ill stick take it slow of piracetam werks this time around
 
you should. I thought it was too good to be true as well. I was very skeptical going in, although hopeful after hearing a friend's report on it. Nothing could have prepared me for how awesome it turned out to be. I'm still waiting for the hammer to drop. I didn't think it was possible to "have your cake and eat it, too". You were totally right, levictus. It was like one of my first times. I dunno about my first time, but it came VERY close. By far the best roll I've ever had.
 
I'm jealous. We tried it exactly as recommended and didn't really notice a difference.

Going to give it another shot though, this time we're going to avoid all stimulants (including coffee) the whole week before taking it with mdma and see how that works.
 
You see, this is why I was even more skeptical it was going to do anything. I had done piracetam for about two weeks and then wound up stopping a week to a week and a half prior to rolling (because I had only one dose left). I found out at the last second that I was rolling -- completely unexpected. I dropped choline bitartrate and lecithin in the morning and in the afternoon. Think I also wound up taking more choline and lecithin in the evening and then dropped the piracetam. Drove somewhere which took about 45 minutes and dosed about ten minutes after getting there. So we could say i preloaded with other stuff throughout the day, pre-loaded with piracetam an hour before dosing with MDMA (I took blue pokeballs, not that it really matters :V ). That day I drank a glass of coke, ate a very large italian dinner with my mother, took the dose of lecithin, choline, and piracetam with another glass of coke. I took the MDMA with some vitamin water, had a little bit of dr. pepper while rolling, and drank a lot of water while rolling (a fiji water container poured in a cup with a straw, refilled with tap once).
 
^are you talking to me or the OP?

I don't remember exactly, but it was what leviticus recommended. It definitely had an affect on coffee--I was blitzed every day before the roll, but it didn't make the roll noticeably different.

I may have drained all my dopamine and upset the roll balance by using it so much with caffeine before the roll. That's my theory anyway. Will try again in September.
 
Caffeine has an effect on norepinephrine, not dopamine. Its stimulant properties come from adrenaline.. it shouldn't have adversely affected your dopamine. I was talking to cutlery, although I felt the information was pertinent to anyone that was looking to dose with piracetam. I've heard that preloading for a few days WITH choline, lecithin, and a couple other things is best. This will assist the pro-cholinergic aspects of all supplements involved and probably make the roll better.
 
AylaV said:
Caffeine has an effect on norepinephrine, not dopamine. Its stimulant properties come from adrenaline.. it shouldn't have adversely affected your dopamine. I was talking to cutlery, although I felt the information was pertinent to anyone that was looking to dose with piracetam. I've heard that preloading for a few days WITH choline, lecithin, and a couple other things is best. This will assist the pro-cholinergic aspects of all supplements involved and probably make the roll better.
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caffeine does have an effect on the dopaminergic system (http://journals.lww.com/behavioural...0/Caffeine_and_the_dopaminergic_system.1.aspx) and combined with the piracetam it really increased the rush and flow! (some opiate users take caffeine to prime the dopamine rush). I used choline with the pre-loading too.
 
Adenosine is a modulator of CNS neurotransmission and its modulation of dopamine transmission through A2A receptors has been implicated in the effects of caffeine
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I stand corrected =) That would make some sense now. My caffeine intake has actually dropped off considerably recently as I've been drinking more apple juice as opposed to tea and cola. That would explain the high i got when combining piracetam and my breakfast tea =)
 
Ok, gonna buy it. But isnt just lecithin+piracetam enought? And what dose was for choline and lecithin??
 
choline was 100mgs and lecithin was 1g each of those times I mentioned taking it. Choline will help prevent headaches apparently.
 
How much piracetam were you taking per day beforehand, and then what was your piracetam dose pre-roll?
 
pre-roll, my piracetam dosage was about 2 and a half grams. I took none the week and a half before I rolled, and before that I was taking 2.5g piracetam twice a day.
 
avcpl said:
I'm jealous. We tried it exactly as recommended and didn't really notice a difference.

Going to give it another shot though, this time we're going to avoid all stimulants (including coffee) the whole week before taking it with mdma and see how that works.
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Perhaps try out taking Choline Bitartrate (or some other Choline source) along with the Piracetam. Although I didn't find it essential for Piracetam enhancing the roll. Do report in though, I would be interested to see if it works the second without the coffee intake (I don't drink coffee at all - so maybe that contributes to Piracetam being effective - I don't know). I always enjoying learning more about using Piracetam with MDMA though. =D
 
I supplement my Piracetam regimen with alpha-gpc as a choline source. You could also take a B-complex vitamin or have two or three eggs for breakfast.

To the OP: yes, Piracetam is totally amazing. I have a big tub of that wondeful stuff.
 
Does piracetam work if you only take some the day of? Or do you need to have a regimen going?
 
^In my experience, it works either way. I used to take Piracetam daily, now I just take it the day I'm planning on rolling. Both methods seemed to work the same.
 
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