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forcing a come down

Ibotenic acid, where the hell did that come from? That's the BAD stuff in Amanita Mushrooms... a nauseating deleriant, that why you have to simmer them to convert the Ibotenic acid into the psychedelic dissociative muscimol. It's NOT something used to end trips or would even be available. I think your wires got crossed somewhere.
 
TheAppleCore said:
Seriously, if you're lucid enough to actually be able to open a pill bottle, take out a pill, and swallow it, you DON'T need that pill! You will NOT be traumatized and you will be perfectly O.K.

Psychedelic trips are like life -- sometimes a lot of fun, sometimes not. The times that aren't so fun can be very helpful wake-up calls (e.g. stress caused by loss of job), or they can just be a drag (soar throat caused by sickness). But you can't numb yourself to it all, and turn a blind eye.


If you are very unlucky and have a psychotic break, which is definitely a bad thing and requires intervention, then your trip sitter needs to get help for you.


Have fun and stay safe.

<3
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This. Use a benzo only if you are a serious danger to yourself, others, or property. If you're just having a rough time, work through it.
 
toocoolforschool said:
QUIT TELING HER TO TAKE DRUGS!!!!! you don't even know what damn substance she's on! you guys disgust me sugesting solutions before you even properly diagnose the problem. at least wait till you know what substance she is refering to before you refer her to a drug. suggesting xanax or benzo's could be a horrible idea if she's already messing with that part of the brain.

DIFFERENT DRUGS HAVE DIFFERENT METHODS TO FORCE A COME DOWN
We need more information before we can safely answer.
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this forum is directed at PSYCHEDELICS and DISSOCIATIVES. Drugs with similar interactions with receptors, as well as contradictions. Benzos will not create a contradiction with those two classes of drugs.
 
Legerity said:
What psychedelic drug are you referring to that would be dangerous to combine with benzos or that benzos would not be effective at coming down from?

I suppose it may not be the best with dissociatives, although I'm not sure that this would necessarily be dangerous.
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benzos with dissociatives actually can negate any possible neurotoxcity (not saying the rec dissociatives out their cause this) from nmda-antagonism. Benzos and nmda-antagonists are commonly used together, especially in medical situations to pervent remembering/experiencing the side effects/recreational effects of the nmda-antagonist.
 
Cloudy said:
benzos with dissociatives actually can negate any possible neurotoxcity (not saying the rec dissociatives out their cause this) from nmda-antagonism. Benzos and nmda-antagonists are commonly used together, especially in medical situations to pervent remembering/experiencing the side effects/recreational effects of the nmda-antagonist.
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Interesting, I didn't know that they could help prevent neurotoxicity. Thanks for the insight.
 
kingme said:
if i ever feel like i am not enjoying the tripi just try to ride it out, and not see it as somethign negative, and i try to do something about it. usually this involves changing the setting, going out, having something to eat/drink, having a shower and changing clothes. changing the music or shutting it off. talking about it to someone is also relaxing.

that being said, ive not had particularly bad experiences. i do know that alcohol is small amounts (to get one tipsy lets say) can have a dulling effect on psych trips, while weed has a confusing (and possibly negative) effect.

just find your comfort zone :)
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yeah i tend to ride them out and afterwards Im always happy that i did though ive found drinking water tends to help alot too. Also I found that smoking weed potentiated my experience with 5-meo-mipt when I took ~25mg of it. Also I don't drink.. but yeah I could imagine maybe a glass of wine or something though I think alot of the RC's that I tend to do tend to make me feel dehydrated so I don't know if alcohol would be the best solution given that but assuming Im not dehydrated and yeah.. its probably ok. But yeah I just don't like alcohol I try and avoid it because I've had lots of bad experiences and alcoholism runs in my family and I find myself wanting to drink more and more.
 
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Warped Reality said:
If you're having a bad trip on a psychedelic, my best advice is to take a hit of E, but snort it... Or smoke some cigarettes.

The E makes you REALLY enjoy it because you get the E high and the lsd/mushroom/whatever you're using high, and you're basically forced to like it and it actually works xD

Cigarettes just calm me down because I get focused on one thing and then the other things start to disappear.
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LOL <3

Cute but I'm looking for good things to make myself feel better;

I think what it ultimately comes down to is if I'm feeling like shit, do some healthy things like drink water, possibly rest and enjoy some quiet. The Anti Psychotics and sedatives that people seem to like to use seem like a really good idea as a last resort (I can't say I've ever been so fux0red that I wanted to use stuff like that and it's not exactly practical to have around either.)

Another thing that I was hoping to find out is what if I realize that I've just consumed more than I thought I consumed; I have problems inducing vomiting. What if something I consumed was an MAOI as well. Also, what if I accidently ate something and realized that I took an MAOI and didn't want to risk an interaction; what could I use to induce vomiting that wouldn't have a reaction with the MAOI.

Also, do MAOI's play nicely with sedatives like benzos and such? I've seen a lot of people suggesting them but I'm wondering if those people are taking into account that there could be an interaction-- I wouldn't know I guess maybe that's something I should ask google: "benzos and maois" but if not I'll check back here and see if someone has any thoughts.
 
paigethylamine said:
Another thing that I was hoping to find out is what if I realize that I've just consumed more than I thought I consumed; I have problems inducing vomiting.
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If you know it is safe, you are in for quite a ride. Whatever you do, do not hold on tight. ;) You are in for a ride and you need to accept that and let it go where it goes. I have had this happen once and in the end I was very proud of myself for handling it so well.
 
Train wreck; mixing tryptamines?

SWIM has several 7MG doses of 5-meo-mipt, 20MG doses of 5-meo-dalt, and a single 10MG dose of 4-aco-dmt. SWIM is wondering how these might mix together and has taken the following into consideration:

- 20MG of 5-meo-dalt is extremely mild, and SWIM wonders if it's possible that 40MG may provide a more psychedelic experience.

- 7MG is about tolerable for 5-meo-mipt and has a very interesting peak. SWIM has experimented with this substance before, and has taken as much as 25MG of it which was discussed in another thread and decided to be a bad idea; but also a fairly unpleasant one.

- SWIM is convinced that 20MG of 4-aco-dmt is solid.

SWIM also wonders if they could base their assumption of safety in regards to combination, dosages and such off of other people's experiences. SWIM would be more comfortable combining all 3 in some amount depending on what they might find from other people's experiences.
 
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