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forcing a come down

paigethylamine

paigethylamine

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lets say i decide im not enjoying myself on some substance and just want it to end. What are some safe solutions (drinking water but not too much?) activated charcoal ipicak? stuff thats even maoi safe? all thoughts and experience appreciated. esp. related safety and health knowledge.
 
paigethylamine said:
lets say i decide im not enjoying myself on some substance and just want it to end.
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Seriously, if you're lucid enough to actually be able to open a pill bottle, take out a pill, and swallow it, you DON'T need that pill! You will NOT be traumatized and you will be perfectly O.K.

Psychedelic trips are like life -- sometimes a lot of fun, sometimes not. The times that aren't so fun can be very helpful wake-up calls (e.g. stress caused by loss of job), or they can just be a drag (soar throat caused by sickness). But you can't numb yourself to it all, and turn a blind eye.


If you are very unlucky and have a psychotic break, which is definitely a bad thing and requires intervention, then your trip sitter needs to get help for you.


Have fun and stay safe.

<3
 
If you are just not enjoying the experience, tough luck. Maybe drink some alcohol and chill.

If you are in distress, a benzo or a 5ht-2a antagonist can be used, but the later should only be used in situations where someone is in physical danger, or posing a threat to others (psychotic breaks would be included).


also never take AC or similar vomit/drug absorber after the drug has reached peak plasma levels, as you'll only put yourself in a shitty situation because you'll be puking up nasty ass shit for a while, and wouldn't be fun while tripping. AC only works while the drug is still in your system. Not like LSD would be absorbed by it anyway (if that was the case)
 
It's generally a bad idea to try and get away from the experience. It can just go hide somewhere, I think that you can actually get neuroses from that sort of thing. Better to just face the music and deal with it. Much better than that it keeps nagging you for who knows how long.

Drinking water does not do anything, your body processes drugs at its own rate and the only thing that will make it go faster may be enzyme induction which is not a real option at all so you can just as well forget it.
Activated charcoal is in mostly all cases too late, if you want a trip to stop you are already in it and you have absorbed the drug into your blood. Perhaps if you wanted to abort immediately after taking something it would work but better is to think about what you are doing before doing it.
Ipecac doesn't really help for the same reason and it's really not good for you either.

Benzo's work but I would always recommend to wait until after the peak before taking it. Never good to stop right in the middle of something therapeutic.

Anti-psychotics also stop a trip but in my limited knowledge about the effects it seems to me like it should be a last resort only countermeasure. Try to only take a benzo if you yourself, your physical or mental health or by your behavior other people are endangered. And only take an anti-psychotic if a benzo doesn't work or if the situation is that dire.

I am being a bit hypocritical here, I have taken a benzo after trips on a number of occasions but not for the reason of trying to stop anything in its tracks. The reasons were like: to be able to sleep despite residual effects, or to calm down stressed out nerves and muscles.
 
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if i ever feel like i am not enjoying the tripi just try to ride it out, and not see it as somethign negative, and i try to do something about it. usually this involves changing the setting, going out, having something to eat/drink, having a shower and changing clothes. changing the music or shutting it off. talking about it to someone is also relaxing.

that being said, ive not had particularly bad experiences. i do know that alcohol is small amounts (to get one tipsy lets say) can have a dulling effect on psych trips, while weed has a confusing (and possibly negative) effect.

just find your comfort zone :)
 
Classical and most of the newer antipsychotics, I've used Seroquel in 100mg+ dosages to end crazy LSD trips, and lower doses at the end of the trip to help me sleep when I didn't have a klonopin or ativan available.

Relax, take a benzo if you really need it to help with the anxiety and everything else should be fine. I always carry an ativan or valium with me when I'm on psychedelics, its my "insurance policy" in case the shit hits the fan.
 
I will take benzos during a trip if necessary, usually toward the end when the peak is over and all I'm feeling is residual noise, or to help me get to sleep.

Some people say it's an easy way out, I think it's a valid tool. I tend to have a high level of anxiety and this often manifests during a trip. But not really in any kind of insightful way, just a bunch of mental noise and physical tension in the stomach/chest. By taking a low dose of benzo to take the edge off rather than completely knock myself out, I'm better able to work through the anxiety.
 
If you're having a bad trip on a psychedelic, my best advice is to take a hit of E, but snort it... Or smoke some cigarettes.

The E makes you REALLY enjoy it because you get the E high and the lsd/mushroom/whatever you're using high, and you're basically forced to like it and it actually works xD

Cigarettes just calm me down because I get focused on one thing and then the other things start to disappear.
 
Warped Reality said:
If you're having a bad trip on a psychedelic, my best advice is to take a hit of E, but snort it... Or smoke some cigarettes.

The E makes you REALLY enjoy it because you get the E high and the lsd/mushroom/whatever you're using high, and you're basically forced to like it and it actually works xD

Cigarettes just calm me down because I get focused on one thing and then the other things start to disappear.
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i would say taht about pure mdma but not any kind of speedy e
 
QUIT TELING HER TO TAKE DRUGS!!!!! you don't even know what damn substance she's on! you guys disgust me sugesting solutions before you even properly diagnose the problem. at least wait till you know what substance she is refering to before you refer her to a drug. suggesting xanax or benzo's could be a horrible idea if she's already messing with that part of the brain.

DIFFERENT DRUGS HAVE DIFFERENT METHODS TO FORCE A COME DOWN
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toocoolforschool said:
QUIT TELING HER TO TAKE DRUGS!!!!! you don't even know what damn substance she's on! you guys disgust me sugesting solutions before you even properly diagnose the problem. at least wait till you know what substance she is refering to before you refer her to a drug. suggesting xanax or benzo's could be a horrible idea if she's already messing with that part of the brain.

DIFFERENT DRUGS HAVE DIFFERENT METHODS TO FORCE A COME DOWN
We need more information before we can safely answer.
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What psychedelic drug are you referring to that would be dangerous to combine with benzos or that benzos would not be effective at coming down from?

I suppose it may not be the best with dissociatives, although I'm not sure that this would necessarily be dangerous.
 
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