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Fluoride what are your views?

I would not want to drink water with added fluoride nor would I brush my teeth with a fluoride-added toothpaste. I do use a toothpaste containing the extract of a tree, Salvadora persica, which itself contains fluoride. I love drinking tea. Nature provides enough fluoride. I suppose the sugary diet of the modern world led governments to play god with the water supply.
 
I avoid fluoride, but my teeth are not something to cheer for. It has nothing to do with me avoiding fluoride though. My teeth are bad because of a broken jaw and being born without enamel.

I avoid fluoride because I hate the taste and it honestly makes me feel ill when I drink it. Funny thing is that I use fluoridated toothpaste and it doesn't bother me. The water makes me want to puke though.
 
Fluoridated drinking water is the main reason for the difference between the amount of tooth decay found in developed and developing countries. The European countries which don't fluoridate their water typically administer school-based dental care (unlike the U.S.), and table salt sold in Europe contains fluoride anyway. The lack of dental care in developing countries is obviously the primary cause of this, but it's not as if people living in developing countries brush their teeth less.

I'm from a college town in the rural U.S., in which many people come from smaller communities that use well water. I can't make any grand pronouncements about the relative difference in dental quality between these people and natives of my town. However, I can say that the accuracy by which I can determine whether or not someone is from out of town by the condition of their teeth is pretty remarkable.

It seems to me that people who complain about fluoridated water fall into the same camp as people who complain about vaccines. The evidence of their benefit substantially outweighs the evidence of their harm. Not only that, but the evidence of harm caused by a lack of either substantially outweighs the evidence of any benefit. The fact that they are widely administered without consent, however, heavily biases people against them, so actual scientific evidence gets subsumed by the alarmist hand-waving of paranoid reactionaries.
 
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Fluoride is harmful to our thyroid. Ingestion should be avoided.

Adding fluoride to our water is a HORRIBLY inefficient way of applying fluoride to our enamel. Levels that are proven to be completely safe for our thyroid provide little cavity protection. Because the fluoride in our water barely makes contact with our enamel before being swallowed we have to consume much, much, much larger amounts of fluoride than what is actually needed to prevent cavities. No to mention that forcing medical treatment on an entire population without their consent is unethical.

Instead of adding fluoride to our water we need to educate and encourage everyone to receive fluoride treatments from their dentist 2-4 times a year, and use a mouthwash containing fluoride daily.
 
Chipping Away said:
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=28884.0
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You do realize that is a website dedicated to perpetuating any and all conspiracy theories, don't you? Keep the populace scared and you can con them into buying your movies, books and seeds from your "seed banks".

Did you even read the link I provided? If that's really what you believe about fluoride, are you avoiding all teflon frying pans and the teflon plumbing tape used in showerheads as well?

More:

http://www.socialanxietysupport.com/forum/f30/is-fluoride-in-ssri-unhealthy-182385/

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110816143237AA1UwUF

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_Prozac_made_of
 
it's BS
No it is not good for you. No it is not an appreciable help to poor children or any such demographic.
No it is not mind control. That is what media is for.
The only benefit is to those who provide the fluoride (is that still from aluminum waste, or is there a new source now?).
 
This thread is so full of ignorance I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

There is no evidence to suggest flouride in water causes any health issues at 1ppm. It is advised that babies under 6 months do not drink tap water, as it MAY be harmful to their development.

There are studies that suggest flouride in HIGH concentrations (4-6ppm) lowers peoples IQ. (The flouride in this water got there naturally)

The "Prozac is 96% flouride" thing is pure facepalm..

1. It isn't.
2. Once a mix of elements becomes a compound, it changes the nature and behaviour of the molecule COMPLETELY.

Places that don't flouridate their water normally hand out flouride tablets to combat tooth decay. Yes, flouride does prevent tooth decay.

I will add, though, that medicating people without their consent / knowledge / choice is ethically wrong.
 
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So we should stop giving babies and kids vaccinations until they're 18 because they're not able to legally consent to it.
 
choco1ate said:
its not
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its necessary, right?

A necessary evil.

One day they'll learn, we're only doing this for freedom! Yes... freedom... YES....

tkarr said:
So we should stop giving babies and kids vaccinations until they're 18 because they're not able to legally consent to it.
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No, kids get consent from their parents. The system is flawless. and if you don't get drugged you're not allowed in public schools. What a good way to dope the entire population.

HPV vaccine 40+ casualty rate. Maker says its dangerous and doesn't work.




Some day people will learn that less is more. I hope...

Dave said:
Chipping: Um, no. That's entirely incorrect. Prozac has a perfluoromethane side group, but all three fluoride moities are covalently bonded and are not released. C-F bonds are the strongest single bonds in organic compounds. L2Chemistry.

bloodshed: care to back up that statement with actual research? Note that the vast majority of fluoridation schemes no longer use sodium fluoride, but rather fluorosilicic acid or its conjugate base sodium fluorosilicicate, as they are more effectively used in enamel remineralization. Plus, I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that the dose used in that video was orders of magnitude higher than in any fluoridation scheme. Also, a little primary research to read. As in: reviewed, publicly funded, non-conflicting interests.

Sorry to knock off your tinfoil hat.
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Hey, state facts all you want but don't be a jerk about it. No need for the sarcasm and I've actually seen some moderator action for the exact phrase "tinfoil hat". So watch out, I mean I know you're a mod and all but it's just blogs so you're pretty much a greenlighter. I mean bluelighter.
 
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bloodshed344 said:
Hey, state facts all you want but don't be a jerk about it. No need for the sarcasm and I've actually seen some moderator action for the exact phrase "tinfoil hat". So watch out, I mean I know you're a mod and all but it's just blogs so you're pretty much a greenlighter. I mean bluelighter.
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I've already asked people to tone down the tinfoil hat type comments, so please leave the modding to actual mods. Thanks for your support!
 
Prozac or fluoxetine is so similar to fluoride it's not funny. The entire time I was on prozac I was incredibly sick. just a week after I stopped it, I started feeling much much better.
 
Chipping Away said:
Prozac or fluoxetine is so similar to fluoride it's not funny. The entire time I was on prozac I was incredibly sick. just a week after I stopped it, I started feeling much much better.
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I read that flourine is an ingredient in the pills but I have no idea how true that is. To clarify, they weren't saying the flourine is from fluoxetine, they were saying the pills have pure flourine as an ingredient in them.
 
^ Facepalm..

Go and hold a flame under a running tap.. WHY DOESN'T IT BURN!? IT'S 66.6% HYDROGEN!?!? 8)

I mean god damn.
 
Just to clarify, this thread is about fluoride in water and toothpaste as a means of toothcare. The fluorine in various medications will have different reactivity and effects on the body based on the chemical composition of the drugs. Besides, we are not really talking about pharmaceuticals here, but tap water.

Let's stay on topic shall we?
 
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