I find this benzo very potent at 0.25mg. I have been using it for sleep in 0.75mg range everynight. How easy are these to stop and if anyone has any expierence with this benzo please share. Also the next day sedation is to much i can't get out of bed.
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Flubromazolam
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fightingthetoot
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Soz mate, can't really help with all those RC benzos, but that is kinda the reason for my post ...
I want to try these, but how do they compare to good old diazepam?
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What are the best to go for? What are the best for rec value?
Thanks dudes and dudettes!
I want to try these, but how do they compare to good old diazepam?
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What are the best to go for? What are the best for rec value?
Thanks dudes and dudettes!
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steewith2ees
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The answer to this depends on how long you have been using them and at what sort of dosage. Everybody becomes tolerant to the effects of benzodiazepinnes, but with most compounds people find that they lose the sedating qualities of the drug alot more quickly than the anti - anxiety properties.
Benzodiazepines potentiate a neurotransmitter called GABA, and along with other drugs that act on the same brain mechanisms such as ethanol and the barbiturates, will eventually be tolerated if taken regularly over a period of time. Once tolerance is established, no further effects are achieveable from these drugs unless the individual dosages are increased. Eventually, one will become tolerant again to the higher doses their brains are now used to, and once again further effects will only be achieved if the drug dosage is increased, and if one decides instead to stop taking the drug as it no longer works, there is a chance that the person will experience withdrawal symptoms. Withdrawl from GABA potentiating drugs should always be regarded as a serious medical problem requiring management, as withdrawal symptoms from these sorts of drugs can range from downright uncomfortable (at the lower end) to life threatening.
All ive done here is describe the basics behind physical pharmaceutical tolerance and dependence - i know its probably equal to grannys sucking eggs Jungo but your question seems quite naive considering you seem to have experience with benzodiazepines in general.
All ive tried to do is to get you thinking again about how these drugs work and the consequences of their long term use. Benzodiazepines always have the best efficacy when used PRN (as required), and if a doctor prescribes a course of benzodiazepines for insomnia then it should be as short as possible. Tolerance to the hypnotic effects of these drugs have developed in some patients within days, and although tolerance to the anxiolitic effects tends to develop more slowly, they will still occour within 3 months or less.
For patients using these drugs to sleep, they will probably be unaware that the drugs are not actually sedating them if they have been taking them for 14 consecutive days or more. In most cases, patients suffering from insomnia will find good efficacy when they first start using hypnotics, but all this does is give the person a chance to improve their sleep hygiene and establish a regular sleeping pattern. Once this is achieved, the hypnotic should be withdrawn as quickly as possible. Rebound insomnia may occur in some cases but if the course of hypnotic has been short then this shoud not be a lasting issue. If one has been using hypnotics for 14 days or more, in most cases the drugs will be providing no sedation, but it will be likely that any amount of sleep will be impossible unless the drug is taken.
Ok Jungo - enough sermonising from me lets try some HR. Ive never taken flubromazolam, but i use flubromazepam regularly and while its not as potent as f-lam by weight, the effect profiles appear very similar, with both drugs accumulating in the body quickly due to their ridiculously long half lives - this is probably why you feel oversedated during the day time and in the cases of both drugs this will lead to an extremely rapid increase in tolerance to all thienodiazepines, benzodiazepines and non - benzodiazepine (z-drugs). You say you find flubromazolam extemely potent at a quarter of a milligram yet you insist on taking 3 times as much as this for sleep. Im sorry if my reply has come across as preachy and condescending but your op describes nothing more than the obvious warning signs of the overuse of an under-researched, super potent benzodiazepine derivative.
If you give us some more information on your current drug use, experiences and drug history then the knowledgeable folk at Bluelights EADD will be able to offer some advice which may allow you some self management of your flubromazolam use before you end up presenting with benzodiazepine dependence at your local drug service provider
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steewith2ees
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we cant discuss sources on here mate, but if you read my latest post in 'Etizolam ran out fuck guys :-(' ive provided some brief information on 4 of the more popular rc benzodiazepines available in the uk at the moment.
click the link below and have a look for post #216 - its towards the bottom of the page
www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/744529-Etizolam-ran-out-fuck-guys(/page9
of course a good session on bluelights search engine willl generate more information than you will ever need on the nature and effect of these drugs, just dont expect any advice on how to go about sourcing any of these chemicals
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Thanks for your reply steewith2ees but I'm not a greenlighter, I forgot my old login details, I was jungo87. I agree with most of what you say I like flubromazepam as well as flubromazolam. But even people with high tolerances to other benzodiazepines were getting messed up on 0.25mg. It did me and I had a daily diazepam script and never felt as strong a feeling on one pill. I read somewhere someone took 3 beers with a o-lam and blacked out. I'm on a nightly regime 3 diclazepam, 100mg quetiapine, 2-3 clonazolam 0.5mg and 3 flubromazolam and smoked weed couldn't get off to sleep so took an extra flubromazolam and a clonazolam. Slept for ages. Not recommended without tolerance what I take it depends on your tolerance and exp with hypnotic benzodiazepines.
lurching
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Na wonder you forgot yr login
Man some of you guys frighten me with the RC's you take, and the quantity - at some point you will need to stop and that will be extremely difficult with multiple benzo's in the mix. Please stop and think about what you are doing - for me i take 10-20mg valium some nights and thats enough with some nice claret (HR - not good to drink and take benzos) but I dont understand the point of taking multiple rc benzos when the the effects are v similiar.
Go easy guys n girls you dont want to end up a zombie.
Go easy guys n girls you dont want to end up a zombie.
I just take that much now to avoid insomnia or rebound anxiety. But Flubromazolam tolerance goes up quick I doubt 1mg by itself would effect me enough
I've done the same on other logins lol
curious_24
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Took me years to lose the keys to those other 23 accounts! :D
steewith2ees
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Most people on here are polydrug abusers anyway - different strokes for different folks and people who take benzos will want to experiment with different ones depending on what they want most from the range of effect profiles - alot of bluelighters dont have the privilege of a diazepam or other pharm grade prescription so rc's are sometimes the only option. Either people realise the hazards of both acute benzodiazepine use and the dependency they create or they dont - thats why we have such discussions on forums such as this. It would be nice to have the simple luxury of a 0.2 bag of consistently good heroin every night with a steady supply of diazepam but we dont. As a junky i cannot pick and choose when to have a nice session and get on with my life in the meantime - i like many make do with a chaotic drug selection and any highs that are acheived are always a bonus
F.U.B.A.R.
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5StarSquatHotel
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These are a fucker for tolerance sky rocketing within days, I would advise to use for no more than 3 nights in a row -easier said than done but these newer ones need extra caution as they are totally untested and could cause long term damage. I would only use them if you NEED too. Any benzo does not stay recreational for long.
@FUBAR I use to have about 80-90 MAD books -lost them on lifes travels and bought loads on ebay a few years ago.
I get a script for 21 blues a month and never use them for more than 4-5 days on the trot as a benzo habit scares the shit out of me - and my doc gives me 21 so i cant take every day.
I get a script for 21 blues a month and never use them for more than 4-5 days on the trot as a benzo habit scares the shit out of me - and my doc gives me 21 so i cant take every day.
F.U.B.A.R.
Bluelight Crew
I've not seen one for over 40 years now - I used to read my brother's. I'll have to ask him if he's still got them. He had the full set of Oz mags as well..
Sammy G
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I've ordered some. I always end up trying these things. I'll report back, sure. Probably in typos.
Do tell me how it goes! I'm very interested.
Sammy G
Ex-Bluelighter
And if I say it's nasty, will you avoid it? Hmmm?