(doesn't belong in the lounge, guess I'll store it here cause I see it being deleted soon heh)
I've been in this Facebook war with someone I grew up with for a few days now. It's been so epically pointless you have no idea lol It's gone from fate to religion to drugs. And when it got to drugs and drug research I got HEATED So I thought I'd share and this seemed like the right place =p
Here's just the last couple back-and-forths about drugs. To catch you up, the girl decided to tell me to get a job and try going to school, to which I responded (and I'm paraphrasing here) Bitch- I'm double majoring to be on the cutting edge of reemerging research fields so I can HELP PEOPLE, wtf do you do, work in a call center? (Lucky guess!) Ended up getting into a debate and she took up the 'all drugs are bad and if you do them your bad nothing good can come from drugs' blah blah blah stance. And I tried getting her to look at the MAPS page just as a start.. no luck 'drugs are bad mmmkay'... Keep in mind I was never trying to defend recreational use or anything like that, just their inherent medical / psychiatric values.
-> ok, now in steps douche nozzle boy friend who (WHOOPS!) also works in a call center lol I'm just coping from then on:
Douche Nozzle- I work in a call center and I make damn good money because I'm good at what I do. The difference is that I passed a drug screening and background check which some people don't have privilege to say.
DragynFyr- way to make the world a better place?
Douche Nozzle- Hmmm. Not sure how a statement can be a question all at the same time. On the other hand, the world would be a better place if people didn't find excuses left and right to use and abuse drugs and thinks that society accepts them.
DragynFyr- Guess what, the 'society' that shunned 'drugs' for racist baseless reasons is dying off and all the modern world is (re)accepting their positive benefits. (Humans have used them spiritually for 10's of thousands of years don't forget.)
MAPS.ORG ! Thumb through that for a second and see what the DEA and FDA are accepting as facts.
The world would be a better place if close minded ignorant folk would pick up a book about drugs that was printed by someone other than their DARE officer in the sixth grade before they formed an opinion on something they frankly seem to know -dick- about.
Drug USE and ABUSE are two very different things mind you
And the question mark was added because I didn't know if you were trying to feel special about yourself because you could pass a drug test, as if that makes you better than someone who chooses to expand their consciousness rather than deaden it with the 'societal standard' alcohol.
And any responsible user would easily pass a background test. Lets face it, all drug testing does is keep marijuana users out of some positions, you could be working side by side with plenty of crack heads who would only need to put down their pipe for 1-3 days to pass a drug test, where your typical MJ user requires 30-45 days... Just don't think it makes ya all that special is all =) Crack heads can do it too.
Douche Nozzle- Why are you defending crackheads? They ABUSE drugs. Society will always look down upon drug users. Further more, my hard earned money gets taxed so that the drug users can take advantage of welfare and get a free ride. I don't need a chemical to make me feel good. I make the right choices and have loving friends and family who I have a good time with.
And you're right- crackheads can pass drug tests, but they don't last at jobs. And then they go on welfare/unemployment because they choose to lower themselves, society won't accept that! I hate having to support scum. How do you feel that 90% of your taxes (if you have a job) are taken to support people like *Douche Nozzles Girl*'s sister, *****, who does NOTHING to better themselves?
DragynFyr- Where did I defend crack heads? I simply said a crack head could easily impersonate a person like yourself and passing a drug test was not something to feel special about.
Society will not always look down upon 'drug users' (a term simply dripping with ignorance btw). Have you read a news paper in the last year? Does "California" ring a bell? That is the tip of the iceberg, the whole country is going to follow suit. Take a brief minute to put down the bible and study shamanism and indigenous cultures use of ethnogenic substances throughout the entire history of man kind. If you believe in a GOD then you must believe he placed every plant here for a reason. Certain PLANTS - let me be real slow here,- I'm not supporting empty useless drugs like crack- certain PLANTS have very useful characteristics- whether you've been too brainwashed into fear to admit it or not.
Again, there is a huge difference between drug users and abusers.. but your DARE acquired fear doesn't let you see that fact..
You know who else has money going to the tax man? People who do more than pick up a phone for a living and do more than mindlessly back up the DEAD thought process of the past. Scientists, Doctors, THINKERS. They all pay into the same pool you use to some how back up your point.
Go watch some Glen Beck dude, you're a waste of time and intelligence if you can be so blind to the developing world around you. The fact you STILL can have resources given to you to actually LEARN something, yet sit there laying down blanket terms like 'drug users' and just bail out on some sad 'they're taking my tax money' excuse is so pathetic.
I bet there are a whole lot more degrees being offered now in the name of studying the benefits of 'illicit' drugs than there are for advancing picking up phone technology. I'm done here.
And hey, asshole, this ignorant shit right here-> "I don't need a chemical to make me feel good. I make the right choices and have loving friends and family who I have a good time with."
~On behalf of every rape victim, every US veteran that had their mind destroyed by a road side bomb: And later had their life completely RESTORED with the help of evil 'drugs' like 'ecstasy' in therapy sessions FULLY APPROVED by the DEA and FDA-
**FUCK! YOU!**
You have a lot to learn dude. But you won't- I WILL- I'm the one in school, so how bout STFU or pick up a book too because you have ZERO clue what you're talking about
DragynFyr-
‎....I just read that over n I'm gonna drop an apology now, very touchy subject for me. I'm double majoring because I believe in these things and I am NOT in short supply of like minded company. Very progressive intelligent doctoral company...... -we are right... and humans have known it for eons..- Sorry for being so passionate about this, but your girl will tell you, I don't often put a lot of heart into anything unless it really matters, and this particular subject truly has the ability to help mankind as a whole, and the biggest thing holding its progress back is the negative set-in-stone mentality of the past that you guys have exhibited here.
No hard feelings meant, but honestly, please take a look at the current research- 'crack, meth, (for the most part) heroin' these are 'empty drugs'.. empathogens, ethnogens... There are different types of drugs but some of them have a LOT of potential to help people... Myself and a whole lot of people who have seen the good things that they can do get a little riled up when they see them being put down with old school ignorance. I believed DARE too once.. Everyone in American grade school did. But sooner or later, you see someone really hurting find help in what they told you would hurt you, and you never forget it. I was personally dying of anorexia and owe my life past age 20 to MDMA all because it let me look in the mirror and really see ME and not the messed up fat-filter I lived with.. I was dying and wasting away, but couldn't see it without some help.. I'll say that openly despite 'society looking down on a drug user' because it's true and I owe my life to it. Some things that we were raised to believe were nothing but bad for us can honestly save our lives when used properly..
There is no money in a cure. And the types of 'drugs' we were raised to believe are bad for us are the kinds of drugs that can 'cure' us of ailments in a single use. Pharmaceutical companies don't make money off single use cures... When you're done with MAPS, swing by phoenixtears.ca if you want to know how to honest to god cure you and your loved ones of any type of cancer. NOT A JOKE. You should repost that link and ask everyone else to do it to- it WORKS. There are many published scientific papers proving that various types of cancers are killed by cannabanoids, but this guy Rick Simpson has cured 100's of people of every kind of cancer imaginable with over a 90% cure rate by feeding them concentrates orally - THAT ISNT A FAKE NUMBER.. There's is so much going on you don't know about because it doesn't get the media coverage it deserves..
Alright with that I'm done, if you wanna talk to me about this more take it to PM's. You have to realize this is nothing new, the only 'new' thing is western day-by-day medicine.. There are God given cures all around
SomeRandomLady- alright everyone...break it up and go home...there is nothing to be gained here.
DragynFyr- ‎^that's the thing, there IS something to be gained =-)
I've been in this Facebook war with someone I grew up with for a few days now. It's been so epically pointless you have no idea lol It's gone from fate to religion to drugs. And when it got to drugs and drug research I got HEATED So I thought I'd share and this seemed like the right place =p
Here's just the last couple back-and-forths about drugs. To catch you up, the girl decided to tell me to get a job and try going to school, to which I responded (and I'm paraphrasing here) Bitch- I'm double majoring to be on the cutting edge of reemerging research fields so I can HELP PEOPLE, wtf do you do, work in a call center? (Lucky guess!) Ended up getting into a debate and she took up the 'all drugs are bad and if you do them your bad nothing good can come from drugs' blah blah blah stance. And I tried getting her to look at the MAPS page just as a start.. no luck 'drugs are bad mmmkay'... Keep in mind I was never trying to defend recreational use or anything like that, just their inherent medical / psychiatric values.
-> ok, now in steps douche nozzle boy friend who (WHOOPS!) also works in a call center lol I'm just coping from then on:
Douche Nozzle- I work in a call center and I make damn good money because I'm good at what I do. The difference is that I passed a drug screening and background check which some people don't have privilege to say.
DragynFyr- way to make the world a better place?
Douche Nozzle- Hmmm. Not sure how a statement can be a question all at the same time. On the other hand, the world would be a better place if people didn't find excuses left and right to use and abuse drugs and thinks that society accepts them.
DragynFyr- Guess what, the 'society' that shunned 'drugs' for racist baseless reasons is dying off and all the modern world is (re)accepting their positive benefits. (Humans have used them spiritually for 10's of thousands of years don't forget.)
MAPS.ORG ! Thumb through that for a second and see what the DEA and FDA are accepting as facts.
The world would be a better place if close minded ignorant folk would pick up a book about drugs that was printed by someone other than their DARE officer in the sixth grade before they formed an opinion on something they frankly seem to know -dick- about.
Drug USE and ABUSE are two very different things mind you
And the question mark was added because I didn't know if you were trying to feel special about yourself because you could pass a drug test, as if that makes you better than someone who chooses to expand their consciousness rather than deaden it with the 'societal standard' alcohol.
And any responsible user would easily pass a background test. Lets face it, all drug testing does is keep marijuana users out of some positions, you could be working side by side with plenty of crack heads who would only need to put down their pipe for 1-3 days to pass a drug test, where your typical MJ user requires 30-45 days... Just don't think it makes ya all that special is all =) Crack heads can do it too.
Douche Nozzle- Why are you defending crackheads? They ABUSE drugs. Society will always look down upon drug users. Further more, my hard earned money gets taxed so that the drug users can take advantage of welfare and get a free ride. I don't need a chemical to make me feel good. I make the right choices and have loving friends and family who I have a good time with.
And you're right- crackheads can pass drug tests, but they don't last at jobs. And then they go on welfare/unemployment because they choose to lower themselves, society won't accept that! I hate having to support scum. How do you feel that 90% of your taxes (if you have a job) are taken to support people like *Douche Nozzles Girl*'s sister, *****, who does NOTHING to better themselves?
DragynFyr- Where did I defend crack heads? I simply said a crack head could easily impersonate a person like yourself and passing a drug test was not something to feel special about.
Society will not always look down upon 'drug users' (a term simply dripping with ignorance btw). Have you read a news paper in the last year? Does "California" ring a bell? That is the tip of the iceberg, the whole country is going to follow suit. Take a brief minute to put down the bible and study shamanism and indigenous cultures use of ethnogenic substances throughout the entire history of man kind. If you believe in a GOD then you must believe he placed every plant here for a reason. Certain PLANTS - let me be real slow here,- I'm not supporting empty useless drugs like crack- certain PLANTS have very useful characteristics- whether you've been too brainwashed into fear to admit it or not.
Again, there is a huge difference between drug users and abusers.. but your DARE acquired fear doesn't let you see that fact..
You know who else has money going to the tax man? People who do more than pick up a phone for a living and do more than mindlessly back up the DEAD thought process of the past. Scientists, Doctors, THINKERS. They all pay into the same pool you use to some how back up your point.
Go watch some Glen Beck dude, you're a waste of time and intelligence if you can be so blind to the developing world around you. The fact you STILL can have resources given to you to actually LEARN something, yet sit there laying down blanket terms like 'drug users' and just bail out on some sad 'they're taking my tax money' excuse is so pathetic.
I bet there are a whole lot more degrees being offered now in the name of studying the benefits of 'illicit' drugs than there are for advancing picking up phone technology. I'm done here.
And hey, asshole, this ignorant shit right here-> "I don't need a chemical to make me feel good. I make the right choices and have loving friends and family who I have a good time with."
~On behalf of every rape victim, every US veteran that had their mind destroyed by a road side bomb: And later had their life completely RESTORED with the help of evil 'drugs' like 'ecstasy' in therapy sessions FULLY APPROVED by the DEA and FDA-
**FUCK! YOU!**
You have a lot to learn dude. But you won't- I WILL- I'm the one in school, so how bout STFU or pick up a book too because you have ZERO clue what you're talking about
DragynFyr-
‎....I just read that over n I'm gonna drop an apology now, very touchy subject for me. I'm double majoring because I believe in these things and I am NOT in short supply of like minded company. Very progressive intelligent doctoral company...... -we are right... and humans have known it for eons..- Sorry for being so passionate about this, but your girl will tell you, I don't often put a lot of heart into anything unless it really matters, and this particular subject truly has the ability to help mankind as a whole, and the biggest thing holding its progress back is the negative set-in-stone mentality of the past that you guys have exhibited here.
No hard feelings meant, but honestly, please take a look at the current research- 'crack, meth, (for the most part) heroin' these are 'empty drugs'.. empathogens, ethnogens... There are different types of drugs but some of them have a LOT of potential to help people... Myself and a whole lot of people who have seen the good things that they can do get a little riled up when they see them being put down with old school ignorance. I believed DARE too once.. Everyone in American grade school did. But sooner or later, you see someone really hurting find help in what they told you would hurt you, and you never forget it. I was personally dying of anorexia and owe my life past age 20 to MDMA all because it let me look in the mirror and really see ME and not the messed up fat-filter I lived with.. I was dying and wasting away, but couldn't see it without some help.. I'll say that openly despite 'society looking down on a drug user' because it's true and I owe my life to it. Some things that we were raised to believe were nothing but bad for us can honestly save our lives when used properly..
There is no money in a cure. And the types of 'drugs' we were raised to believe are bad for us are the kinds of drugs that can 'cure' us of ailments in a single use. Pharmaceutical companies don't make money off single use cures... When you're done with MAPS, swing by phoenixtears.ca if you want to know how to honest to god cure you and your loved ones of any type of cancer. NOT A JOKE. You should repost that link and ask everyone else to do it to- it WORKS. There are many published scientific papers proving that various types of cancers are killed by cannabanoids, but this guy Rick Simpson has cured 100's of people of every kind of cancer imaginable with over a 90% cure rate by feeding them concentrates orally - THAT ISNT A FAKE NUMBER.. There's is so much going on you don't know about because it doesn't get the media coverage it deserves..
Alright with that I'm done, if you wanna talk to me about this more take it to PM's. You have to realize this is nothing new, the only 'new' thing is western day-by-day medicine.. There are God given cures all around
SomeRandomLady- alright everyone...break it up and go home...there is nothing to be gained here.
DragynFyr- ‎^that's the thing, there IS something to be gained =-)