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first time with valium

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This is my first time postibg here so before this is fully read i want to apologise for any rules i may have broken.
Ok so I am new to pills, and it takes him 35mg of hydrocodone to feel good, 45mg to be nodding. And it takes 300mg of tremadol to feel good. How much Vallium shoud he take for his first time? What is it going to feel like? And how long should it take to kick in?
 
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you should be very careful mixing benzodiazepines with opioids. tramadol and opioids is much less dangerous, and can actually aid in the elimination of any possible seizures. mixing them with hydrocodone though should be practiced with extreme care. i would recommend you ditch the whole idea of hydrocodone and benzodiazepines. however, if you chose to continue, take 2.5 milligrams of diazepam (valium) only and half your dose of hydrocodone. if you feel the effects of the opioid are not sufficient, slowly titrate upwards every 30 or so minutes in small increments while leaving the diazepam at the same dose.

you can safely take tramadol with a low dose benzodiazepine. 5 milligrams at most for a non-tolerant user.

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Sorry if i wasnt clear on this, but im not mixing anything i was only telling how much of what i need to get the effects of those drugs specifically, only one drug at a time. But i ended up doing 20mg of valium in school and i felt then kick in 30-45mins after i ate them and it wasnt very strong, kind of a mild high, walking slow and not comoletely straight. I ended up sleeping through half of one class and straight through my last 2 classes. I liked the feeling i had when i was awake but hated sleeping cause it was just a waist lol but the sleep itself was amazing.
 
be careful with that. it can stay in your blood for a long time so even after said effects appear to have worn off, they can aid in the dangerous possibility of respiratory depression when an opioid is taken later.

if you don't need the benzodiazepines man, just don't do them. i regret the day i ever took my first benzo.
 
You have the wrong idea here. Benzos are not recreational. You don't get "high" on them. If you wanted to feel insanely loopy on your first time with a benzo then you take the equivalent to 2mg of Xanax which is 40mg Valium. Also do not drink on pills. But you won't find much fun in doing Benzos. They're for those rough come downs, long travels or insanse blackout binge drinking. Jk last one lol
 
Me and my brother got into a really bad fight toda. Im 17 and hes 25. I got 2 black eyes, few knots in my head from when my mom was hitting me and telling me to stop, and bruises all over and very sore. Im gona be getting more val tomorrow. Along with some ibuprofen i should still be safe right? And would it help my pain a bit or just take my mind off it? Also how much ibyprofen should i take with 30-40mg of vallium? And ill be taking it about 1 1/2 hours of a bowl of weed. And if you were wondering i mainly got brused besides the bad nosebleed, but his head andface were bleeding quite a bit, from his mouth nose and a spot in his head were i hit him with something.
 
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Valium & Xanax saved my life during my teenage years as i had the worst panic attacks ever. Long live benzos!!

there's no judgement on my behalf for benzodiazepine users. especially in cases such as yours where panic attacks can affect the quality of life.

in a case such as mines, i started benzos for pretty much no reason and got dependent to something i don't need. i think this happens to be the case much of the time.
 
Benzos do nothing for me unless I'm in panic. I don't even like them like I did heroin; although -- when I had thyroid storm they saved my life, as I had panic attacks daily, 'but…' when I was out of my script I ended up in the ER, thought I was going insane. Little did I know it was merely valium withdrawal. I was so young. They are sneaky and harder ime to kick then opiates. They never got me high.

Guess I feel strongly about benzos, lol.
Anyways, Welcome to BL!

I'm new this year myself.

:)
 
Can someone pleaseeeee help me and answer my question. The thread is labeled mixing opiates
 
You have the wrong idea here. Benzos are not recreational. You don't get "high" on them. If you wanted to feel insanely loopy on your first time with a benzo then you take the equivalent to 2mg of Xanax which is 40mg Valium. Also do not drink on pills. But you won't find much fun in doing Benzos. They're for those rough come downs, long travels or insanse blackout binge drinking. Jk last one lol

I disagree and I find benzos are indeed recreational :) - 'high' is subjective? Do you get 'high' from alcohol - that is certainly recreational! 40 mg of Valium will not make you 'loopy' with no tolerance, you will fall asleep.

With any new drug I suggest start low - 5mgs, see how that works. Give it an hour, see how your feeling - then you can either take another 5mg or wait until next time and take 7.5 etc :) .
 
Mike,

Diazepam won't really give u a "high", unless ur the anxious type,- maybe more of a relaxed feeling which some ppl enjoy.

Opiods and benzos are completely different classes of drugs,- so never assume if u have any tolerance to either, that u will with the other.

Start slow and increase.- harm reduction. Diaz has a long half life iirc. Like 100hrs, Cmiiw. So it stays in ur system days after uv forgotten uv taken it and then decide to experiment with opioids.

I know u aren't talking of combining atm, but If u ever do, know ur tolerance to each drug, and again- start small.

Hope this helps

Rtp
 
I ended up takeing 20mg, then 10mg, then 30mg in school, 2 of my teachers asked me if i was okay i just said i was tired and sore. But the effects seems to be much more efficiant, untill my last class i lotterally just passed out. It was like i blinked and class was over. Kinda strange but i have 3 more ill take out of school and try not to do too mamy benzos cause i dont really enjoy them enough to pay for them ( ive been getting them for free). Seems like i would stick more towards opiats, but i also want to try some more psycodelic stuff so i can get more of an understanding of myself. I got veery little cash so what would be a more save experience? Im thinking acid because its so easy to get but ive heard it stays in your spine for life
 
I ended up takeing 20mg, then 10mg, then 30mg in school, 2 of my teachers asked me if i was okay i just said i was tired and sore. But the effects seems to be much more efficiant, untill my last class i lotterally just passed out. It was like i blinked and class was over. Kinda strange but i have 3 more ill take out of school and try not to do too mamy benzos cause i dont really enjoy them enough to pay for them ( ive been getting them for free). Seems like i would stick more towards opiats, but i also want to try some more psycodelic stuff so i can get more of an understanding of myself. I got veery little cash so what would be a more save experience? Im thinking acid because its so easy to get but ive heard it stays in your spine for life

'All arounders' are more fun than valium, like psychedelics! Not that they are not dangerous… Those are the one class of drugs I never got addicted to… I would say they are safer then benzos, ime.
 
Ive haf vallium a 4 times by now, the first time.i mentioned above, then 30mg then 30mg, then 40mg. Not in the same day of course but since the time i started thjs thread. But i happen to like them quite a bit if i had plenty of sleep so i dont cransh so hard, (falling asleep). But its not completly a real high andnot completely relxation like if seen a few people say. Its deffinatly 50/50 for me.
 
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