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First Time Valium On Train? Questions?

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mushmushomnom

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Hello, This is my first post, so if i posted in the wrong area, or am doing anything wrong just let me know, instead of bitching at me, thanks.

I have never done any benzos (that i know of anyways) and In 3 days, I am getting on a train that is going to be approximetaly 8/9 hours, and then a bus that may be 2/3 hours to visit somebody for about 2 weeks in a drug free zone.

I am planning on getting some 10mg valiums to take on/before the train , as well as some for when im there/ on my way back.. because I wont have much of all if anything to do on the train / while im there

(im assuming they are an alright recreational drug, im not using them specifically to rid anxiety, PLEASE correct me if im wrong.)

my questions are

-how many do you think I should take for the train ride there, and what is the best way to take them?

-Approximetaly how long do they last?

-while on them are you obviously fucked up, or is it easy to hide?

-Will I fall asleep? if so, will I be able to wake up easily? (in case I arrive at the stop or something and am passed the fuck out)

-and finally, can anyone give their best description on what the high is like?
( I think I have a good idea on what its like, im just wondering if anyone can give me a better idea :P)

For the record, I am just throwing these questions out there, im not expecting you to know the answers to them, because everything effects everyone differently..
but any help given is greatly appreciated, thanks alot.

P.S: please let me know if you think this is a bad idea in any way, LOL

thanks.

:)
 
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its an anti anxiety drug. so guess what it will rid your anxiety. awesome isnt it! :D
 
This probably belongs in BDD...

P.S: please let me know if you think this is a bad idea in any way, LOL
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I actually think its a good idea, provided you've taken Valium (or at least other benzos) before. Travelling (not driving) on trains or airplanes is usually a somewhat stressful experience, so I completely understand wanting to take an anti-anxiety drug on your journey.

I haven't been on a commercial airline flight sober since I discovered opiates and benzos. It just makes dealing with all the crazy things that are bound to happen that much easier. Why else do you think they serve booze like crazy on international flights?

That being said, make sure you take a dosage you can handle, I don't recommend taking 100mg of Valium and expecting to act coherent on the train...

What's your prior (if any) experience with benzos such as Valium (diazepam)?
 
This should be in BDD.

But anyways, I'll answer your questions as best as I could.

how many do you think I should take for the train ride there, and what is the best way to take them?

Since you are totally a benzo virgin, I suggest a 5 mg dose and the best way to take it is just swallowing the tablet with water.

Approximetaly how long do they last?

The initial and noticeable effects will last anywhere from 4-6 hours, maybe less. But diazepam (Valium) has a long half-life so it's metabolites will be in your system for up to 200 hours (don't worry, you won't be feeling any effects at this point).

while on them are you obviously fucked up, or is it easy to hide?

At the dosage I recommended, no not at all. You will feel more relaxed, maybe a bit sleepy, but nothing major. Nobody will even know you're on anything.

Will I fall asleep? if so, will I be able to wake up easily? (in case I arrive at the stop or something and am passed the fuck out)

Again, at that dose (5 mg) you won't be overly sedated. You may fall asleep, but you will be easily woken.

and finally, can anyone give their best description on what the high is like?

There is no 'high' with diazepam (Valium) at that dose. You will just feel relaxed, anxiety-free, and at ease.
 
^Without any tolerance or prior experience with the effects, no.

10mg would probably knock you out or at least sedate you a bit too much for what you're trying to do.
 
I would def. make sure not to take too much your FIRST time ever taking a benzo, you could fall asleep and miss your stop! I have seen a lot of people pass out the first few times so definitely start off small. if you could take less than 5 MG I would try to. Your going to feel great also so dont take that as keep taking it because with diazapam, or valium you could like i said pass right out. Waking up could be tricky if you really are Passed the F out, it would be kkind of like being forced to get up during a tylenal pm sleep. Groggy and what not. As for your anxiety you will be fine in that perspective, maybe really enjoy the trip because of the vals, just dont over do it! if you have any other questions let me know, im new too and cant seem to get off the site. hehe! Hope this helped!
 
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do you not reccomend me taking more then 5mgs?
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Since it's your first time with benzos, I'd say no. Take 5 mg and then see where you are an hour later. If you still feel like your anxiety isn't completely relieved then taking another 5 mg or half of a 5 mg (so 2.5 mg) wouldn't hurt.

But do not go over 10 mg. For a total benzo virgin, 5 mg is a great start and 10 mg is the absolute max!
 
If you take Valium (and other benzos) consistently for long periods of time (the amount of time varies greatly from benzo to benzo and from person to person) then tolerance and dependence will indeed develop.
 
mushmushomnom said:
(im assuming they are an alright recreational drug, im not using them specifically to rid anxiety, PLEASE correct me if im wrong.)

my questions are

-how many do you think I should take for the train ride there, and what is the best way to take them?

-Approximetaly how long do they last?

-while on them are you obviously fucked up, or is it easy to hide?

-Will I fall asleep? if so, will I be able to wake up easily? (in case I arrive at the stop or something and am passed the fuck out)

-and finally, can anyone give their best description on what the high is like?
( I think I have a good idea on what its like, im just wondering if anyone can give me a better idea :P)
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Diazepam can certainly be enjoyable, but if you expect too much from it, the consequences can be bad. The effects of benzodiazepines can be subtle; Many first time users get themselves into trouble by taking more and more trying to feel strong effects, while in reality they are very intoxicated and don't realize it. The way to combat this is to be very precise with your dose, taking only what it needs to sedate you a bit.

Since you've never taken benzos (from what I gather), you really don't know how intoxicated you're going to get. Keeping your dose low is important; If you take too much, you'll act crazy for sure. You may want to do a test run before you try this in a place like a train.

People are prescribed benzos for travel regularly and they work well for this, but taking the benzos for recreational effects is a bit trickier. There is a pretty fine line with benzos between a good dose and too high of one, and taking too much causes a loss of self control and usually compulsive re-dosing. Because of this, I would test how you react to benzos first, and also limit the number that you bring with you. The latter is to prevent eating a huge number of pills if you black out and take everything you have, which is very common.

Be smart about this and you will be fine, just beware that if you take too much, things generally get bad quickly.
 
One 10mg diazepam isn't a bad dose IMO, just be careful about more than that... If you decide to take more, add slowly, maybe 5mg after two or three hours. 15mg should be plenty.
 
thank you very much pegasus, that was very helpful.

I think ill test it out today , if i take like 10 mgs today (sunday) do you guys still suggest that I take only a small amount on the train?(wednesday)
 
^I'd take the same dose that you settle on today...

...No problem, ask any questions you have!
 
benzo in my opinion will gain you a very fast tolerance, from personal experience, I went from getting buzzed from .5 xanax - a week later needing 2.0 , 4 X taht amount. So yeah real fast
 
Depends on your reaction to the 10mg today. If you find that 10mg effects you the way you want to be effected then take that dose on the train. If you find that 10mg is too much (too sedating, etc), then just take 5mg on the train.
 
okay, thank you all for your help, Youve answered all my questions,pretty quickly too.

hopefully it all works out..

have a good one everyone! Lol :)
 
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