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First time user - LSD, How Should I go about?

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I'm 18 and recently my friends and I have decided that we want to have a new experience. We're very prudent kids, and we make pretty wise decisions. My drug use has only extended as far as alcohol.

However, this summer we really wanted to experience the psychedelic drug LSD. It wasn't so much for the idea of "tripping balls" and what not; we wanted to have mind-altering experience that gave us a different perspective on life, and really just gave us an idea of what's out there. Now, keep in mind that we haven't smoked weed, or eaten shrooms. Anything. We decided that if we were to do anything, we would want to take a journey with our dear friend lucy.

I have researched lsd very extensively, and I have looked into what would be the safest thing for us. For one thing, it seems like people suggest we should start with something less out there, like weed. But, we REALLY want to just experience lsd, and not smoke or take shrooms. So we have our mind set on take acid, and I really would just like to know how the safest way to go about this is, and just some other things that I would wanna know that aren't readily available to me at school.

Questions:

For our first (and most likely only) time, how much of a dose do you think we should take? I was thinking 30-40mcg, but that sounds like a pretty low dose and we wouldn't get almost any visual effects. However, for all I know since I haven't used anything before, it may be just enough. We don't want to see shit melting and what not, but we also want to have a little bit of a visual impairment.

Do people that sell typically know how many mcgs are in a hit (with accuracy)? Are there chances we get bunk hits?

How should I store it for when the time comes? We plan on taking a trip to my farm and settling down there for it and I would want to buy it a few days in advance obviously.

How likely is it that we have an extremely bad trip or a bad trip just in general? And if so, what can we do to relax and stuff? (We are bringing sober-sitters because I have seen that is something that is really needed)

Thanks, I really hope you guys can help me out!
 
If you're only going to do this once, I would do around 100ug's. It's a nice solid dose and yet not too crazy. Although I have my suspsicions you may not only do it once, it's a mind blowing experience, good or bad.

No dealers often don't, but we have acid identification threads, put your hits up there and someone will most likely be able to give a decent idea. Honestly it all depends on the dealer though, I've had dealers that really knew their shit, and most who were just trying to make some cash.

Keep it wrapped tightly in foil, in a taxbag, in a book. Don't get it out, don't play with it, just leave it until you're ready to take it and you'll be fine.

Extremely bad trip? Very unlikely, unless you eat a huge dose. The first time I took acid, I had extreme anxiety about 3 hours before I dropped, for fear of a bad trip, so when I realised I just eat a half, my anxiety subsided and that's what I did.
Cut forward to two hours later and I was on top of the moon with good vibes, so I ate the other half and that was the night that changed my entire life.

I find the most common cause of really bad trips are horrible social interactions, where you over think the whole thing.
For example, you could be talking a friend and they kinda look a devil or something, so you associate this with what they're saying and pick up a completely imagined delusion of malevolence in what they're saying, or just plain misunderstanding them, or mishearing them.

Just do it with people you trust, and that trust you back. With experience these kinds of confusions get easier and easier to discount as just the mind playing tricks, and aren't all that common.

I'll tell you what not to do though, don't go running off on your own out into the street in the dark, in my experience it made everything far FAR worse.
I will also say that the one horrible trip I had on acid was also one of the most interesting and enlightening experiences of my life, made me realise I needed to work on a horrible part of my personality and I have.

Treat Lucy with respect, and she will treat you nicely right back.
 
The dealer probably won't know the dose in a hit. If you want to have just one trip, you should have at least one hit, to know the full character of a trip. There's much more about it than seeing shit melting.

A bad trip often comes from fear itself. Always remember that nobody has died from an LSD overdose since it was discovered in 1943.
Still, remember LSD is not a feel-good drug, it can lead you to through unpleasant ways if you have to confront your past or something, but these bad experiences won't last the whole trip if you have a strong mind, and after the trip you'll feel you're more self-aware and dealing better with your life.
So if a bad experience comes to you or one of your friends, don't fear it, get over it and learn with it.
 
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Agreed! You will not know the mcg of your hits unless you were directly involved in the synthesis. Sooo, the best you can do is find out how much others have taken from the same batch and judge accordingly. Take any claim on the potency with a grain of salt.

That being said, an LSD trip lasts for hours (without intervention), so the chance of having a bad trip the whole time is unlikely, especially with people with whom you are comfortable. And, the only reason you would have a bad trip is if you lose sight of the fact that you are on a crazy potent drug, and that is why you are freaking out. Trust me, you will get anxious, and you will have crazy thoughts. Be prepared and you will love it!

(good to have a benzo on hand for absolute life threatening situations, but only for like cops or ruining relationships. If you are just freaking out, let it pass, and you will be happy you did forever)
 
Wrap the tabs in silver foil, put them in a plastic container, and freeze them. Since you'll only be waiting a few days, the container and freezer shouldn't be necessary. You won't be able to tell the dosage, but the ideal dose for a first trip, I'd say, would be around 100mcg. Light and gentle, but definitely a trip, with marked visual effects and pronounced euphoria.

It's not so much a matter of visual 'impairment' as it is 'improvement', until you get to higher doses.

Bad trips at that dose are very unlikely. I can only see them happening if what you get isn't actually LSD, or if you have an extreme psychological reaction to it. My first trip was on approximately this amount (again, you can only really guess) and I did get quite anxious in the first couple of hours, but this quickly faded as I realised it wasn't going to get any stronger.

If it really is going to be your only experience, I wish you the very best time possible with it. Hope you and your friends have an awesome night.

(I would recommend dropping the tabs around 3 or 4p.m. for optimal effects).
 
Honestly the person you are going to get it from probably doesnt really know how strong it is. If you get papes then just take 1-2 depending on how comfortable you feel with drugs. It is not like alcohol at all. The only similiarity to me at least is that you speak more openly about shit. The most important thing is set and setting as in who youre with and where toure tripping at. Make sure its somewhere you are comfortable and not paranoid about attracting attention.

One more ting, DO NOT drive on LSD. I drove to pick up chron like right after I took a hit of cid thinking I would get back before the 1hr period before it kicks in. Then I hit some traffic and the last 10 mins of the drive was really intense. Luckily I had done it before but if that was my first time I mightve died. Seriously, dont do anything that puts any kind of liability on you because it will ruin your trip. just chill out, and go with the flow
 
My second or third acid trip, I went to the beach at night with some friends... took 1.25 tabs, they took 1 and 1.5. It got really windy, so we decided to leave before the effects kicked in. Just before getting in the car, my friend who'd taken 1 tab took another - and these were by no means week. Sure enough we'd just gotten in the car when we started to feel it. It was one of the strangest, most intense drives I've ever had. And I can definitely say, never, ever, EVER put yourself in the position we did. We got back alive, obviously, but if I'd been driving, well...
 
haha, the not driving advice is pretty solid.

that was an unfortunate place I once found myself in and count my blessings that nothing bad happened.

the chance of someone knowing the measurement of a hit is pretty slim, but technically possible. more likely if youre dealing with a college crowd that makes it themselves at the lab, which is not as unlikely as it sounds, depending on whether or not youre close to a big university i guess.

make damn sure you trust everyone youre doing it with.

enough to risk your life for them, and I mean that literally.

I made some bad decisions in my early years about set and setting and it almost always blew up in my face.

The people you journey with will make the difference between a wonderful experience and a nightmare.
 
LSD is great, it's my favorite psych. I personally like going about my daily business but on acid. I've gone shopping, to massive college parties and festivals. All I can say is there is no preparation per say, you just gotta roll with it.

No one is going to be able to tell you how much is in a hit but I would suggest taking 2. One might be underwhelming and I don't believe in redosing. This is why I personally take 5 every time. My point being you don't want to short change yourself.

Bring fruit. Eating fruit you love will be very enjoyable. Also smoking weed could lead to paranoia, I've seen trips turn sour because of it. Benzos just in case are a good thing but you can probably fool someone having a bad trip into thinking a sugar pill will make it all go away.

As far as groups make sure you trust your friends. Make sure you will all be willing to chase down the naked guy screaming about how your goin to kill him. My cousin took 3 hits stripped naked and ran down the street yelling until I caught him. The next 4 hours involved me rebuilding him while I was on 6 hits.

Also bunk hits happen. I wish you could have someone "test" it first. Ive gotten sold so many bunk hits in my life it's disgusting. Im considering getting a indole test for it, so I can assume what I'm buying is LSD. In this age of RCs I've even been sold DOM as LSD. The kid thought it was acid but my marquis reagent turned green so it was some DOx

Remember it's only acid you'll be fine.
 
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Can I ask why you don't want to start out by smoking weed? When you first encounter it, the psychedelic state is totally unlike any other experience you may have had before, and weed can help to prepare you for this by exposing you to very mild versions of various psychedelic experiences, such as time distortion, thought loops, vibes, etc. It's definitely not an absolute necessity, but it will substantially increase the likelihood of having a good trip by giving you the basic tools necessary to deal with that new realm.
 
I've driven twice on LSD.

The first time was about four hours after dosing. It was a moonlit night around midnight. Having the windows and sunroof open with the cool wind in my hair, alone, blasting music, and driving down the open highway was orgasmic. Very relaxing experience.

The second time my friend and I decide to drop and drive to the beach. We figured we'd get there by the time it hit. We got stuck in unexpected traffic and the situation turned stressful very quickly. We began peaking in the middle of this traffic jam. I had to muster up all my attention and driving experience just to handle that. The smell of the tire rubber and exhaust fumes was enough to make me sick.

I don't condone driving on LSD, but it really isn't difficult on a light doses. The only drugs I definitely steer clear of the wheel while on are disassociatives and alcohol.

This was really off topic but I felt people were being too paranoid of driving while tripping. Just avoid congestion, construction and unfamiliar routes.
 
I love the idea that it will be your first real experience with a mind altering substance. I was 16 an tripped on mushrooms on a hiking trip deep into the hills well before I tried weed and it was a fantastic experience. Weed is nice and all but I love the idea of jumping feet first into the unknown.

It sounds like you have a solid crew of friends with a great secluded location and enough time to enjoy both the trip and the after glow without rushing back to normal society. It is difficult to determine dose but it is generally accepted that a single hit is around 100mcg give or take and for most people that is enough to get a good feel of things. Lower doses are ideal if you are planning on travelling into the public realm as it lowers the anxiety levels where as more than this will run the risk of confusion and everyone going into their own mind. A good single dose should allow for a more social experience with your mates and still have time to lose enough of your shit to make some discoveries on your own.

For a group of rookies I would recommend starting during the day, perhaps 1-2pm and allow enough daylight hours to get your shit together before it gets dark. Light a fire and have everything prepared and within easy reach because when things get dark, and you start hitting your peak, all hell will break loose (in a good way).

You are going to be confused, someone will get nervous and freak a little bit, you will all think it is the start of a "bad trip", but if you try and stay level headed you will all ride through this within 20minutes and go on with your trip. "Bad trips", like some one mentioned are usually bought on by your mind. Parents coming home, police stopping your car, breaking up with your girlfriend the day before and she text you half way through.... make sure you clear your schedule in advance and cut off all contact with the outside world, any worries you may have that trip will be insignificant the next day you wake up. I would only call a trip bad if you end up naked in your neighbours yard, talking about the devil and the police haul your arse away. You should experience a range of emotions, just be sure that at least one of you is smart enough to see sense and bring back the laughter. Getting nude is always a good ice breaker ;)

Oh to be young and free to start a new adventure again. Best of luck.
 
Just so you know, we already have several main threads for discussing LSD, including one for first time users :) I'll merge this with that one once you've had a chance to reply.

All your questions have been answered already in some depth, any more questions before you embark? :D
 
it's hard to tell how many micrograms are in one hit untill you try it, and your dealer probably won't know that well either. LSD is usually sold on sheets or cookies with a drop or "hit" of LSD on each blotter/cookie/sheet. make sure you store the stuff in a cool, dry place and it should last 2-3 months. there is a possibility of getting fake hits, the only way to find out is gett a really legit dealer or to just try out the LSD. if it's a sheet or blotter, i put that bad boy on my tongue, but if i get the cookies i just chew up the cookie and swallow it.

for me, i really have to be in the mood for LSD, like i have to want to see shit and have fun and laugh. if something has happened recently and im really anxious before i go into the trip, the experience will turn out not fun. LSD is really not as intense as mushrooms and you can kind of control your high. i can usually act normal, but my pupils give me away when they are saucers LOL.

remember set and setting, have a good mindset and have a safe enviroment where you wont be questioned if you are on drugs, get into trouble, ect... make sure your head is screwed on right and have no obligations the day your trip.

my last piece of advice, go with the flow, and remember that the trip is only a dream ;) it wont last forever! good luck, dont drive, and have fun!
 
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