First time taking an "intense" psychedelic?

[thatonetaco]

So I got myself a couple tabs of 25C-NBOME. The guy said it was 1350mg. I really only smoke weed (at high doses) because I love the way it makes my mind wander, pretty far. I'm planning on taking this with my friend, and was wondering,

How do you ingest it?

How much should i take? I don't wanna take too much because I don't wanna do anything TOO stupid. BUT I do wanna have a pretty intense trip (mild-strong haullicinations)

& how long does the trip usually last?

Thanks!

 

[Deinonychus]

So I got myself a couple tabs of 25C-NBOME. The guy said it was 1350mg. I really only smoke weed (at high doses) because I love the way it makes my mind wander, pretty far. I'm planning on taking this with my friend, and was wondering,

How do you ingest it?

How much should i take? I don't wanna take too much because I don't wanna do anything TOO stupid. BUT I do wanna have a pretty intense trip (mild-strong haullicinations)

& how long does the trip usually last?

Thanks!

Hey, welcome to Bluelight. Generally these kind of questions that are super basic are best answered by looking in the Big and Dandy thread for that chemical. You'd find a list of all of the BnD megathreads in the psychedelic index, at the top of the forum page. In any case the specific BnD for this compound is here.

It will last probably eight or nine hours including the comeup and comedown. You put the blotter between your gums and your cheek, this is called buccal administration, as opposed to under the tongue (sublingual administration) which is fine for acid but somewhat inefficient for the NBOMes compared to buccal.

I don't get really any effects from less than a milligram of NBOMes, but some people are naturally less tolerant to these compounds. Thus start low, like half of one of those blotters. Then if that's not strong enough for you wait two weeks and try a whole blotter (two weeks time is necessary for tolerance to drop back down to zero).

In the future please try to make use of the forum search and the psychedelic index/BnD megathreads to find the answers to elementary questions like these. Thanks.

As said, welcome to Bluelight, have fun and enjoy your stay!

EDIT: Forgot to mention that as far as psychedelic effects such as 'mindfuck' – alteration of normal thought processes – goes, and in most other respects as well, the NBOMe series are some of the least 'intense' psychedelics out there. I would go so far as to call them only pseudo-psychedelic, manifesting the visuals and general giggly goofiness of real psychedelics but lacking the mindfuck and body load that are the hallmarks of a truly psychedelic chemical. The NBOMes I find are more akin to things like 5-MeO-DALT, where there are some of the effects like visual disturbances that are usually associated with psychedelics but the 'depth' is not there.

 

[crazycatman]

iI think intense is the wrong word. For your first time you wan't something that's easy on your body (nausea and such), not anxiogenic and not dangerous. And the nbomes are not really the safest ones around. I'd reccomend 2c-c, 4-ho-met, lsd, al-lad, ...

 

[kidklmx]

Should start with half a blotter, an active dose starts around the ~300ug mark! That's not very strong though, something along the lines of half your 1350ug blotter should give you desired effects (gets me going nice enough). If not, you can always wait 2 weeks and try a whole one

 

[Deinonychus]

iI think intense is the wrong word. For your first time you wan't something that's easy on your body (nausea and such), not anxiogenic and not dangerous. And the nbomes are not really the safest ones around. I'd reccomend 2c-c, 4-ho-met, lsd, al-lad, ...

I dunno dude I think the NBOMes are probably the least anxiogenic of all psychedelics. I know that overdoses tend to show anxious behavior but that's gonna be the case for any psychedelic overdose, even something (relatively) benign like 100mg of 2C-B. If anxiety is a worry I think an NBOMe is perfect: it will give an idea of what the psychedelic mind state is like without actually fully bringing that mind state about. Whereas all the other compounds you mentioned are unquestionably fully psychedelic, as opposed to the 5-MeO-DALT-like pseudo-psychedelia of the NBOMes.

In summary as far as I am concerned as long as proper doses are taken and due caution is exercised, NBOMes are *the* ideal drugs to introduce a newbie to trippy compounds. The first time I tried an NBOMe that was pretty much my first thought upon effects manifesting.

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

First of all I'd like to correct the dosage, it would be 1350ug, which is micrograms, or in other words 1.35mg.
If I were you I'd cut it in half because its your first time taking a powerful psyche (and yes the NBOMe's can be incredibly visual, although generally lack the head fuck which usually leads to bad trips)
When you ingest it, put the half tab on your tongue, and hold it there for up to 20-30 minutes.
THIS IS CRUCIAL, do not swallow it! The NBOMe series are broken down in the stomach and will render it inactive.
The trip when taken sublingually shouldn't last longer than 8 hours, and if you find you aren't high enough, cut the remaining half tab in half again and titrate up with the quarter tab, the NBOMe's are also notorious for having a very high dose response curve, meaning doubling the dose you took originally wont necessarily mean you will be twice as high, you could be three times as high or even more

 

[thatonetaco]

Thanks guys! I texted him asking how many mg's are in it (I thought that's what they were measured in) and he said 1350mg. I just asked him 1350ug not mg right? he said yeah. He's pretty sketchy lol. I guess my main concern is that he said 1350mg. That would measure to 1350000ug. I'm not trying to like die or anything; and the tabs are pretty small, I don't know if it could that much?

And my friend just told me 700ug's peak for 18 hours; full effects lasting 28 hours. is this true?

thanks again, this is my first time experimenting with something alot more powerful than weed, I just wanna be safe!

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

Not at all true!!
Frankly your friends are morons, don't trust what they say.
For the future I would strongly encourage you to direct all your questions to bluelight.
If the tabs are indeed 25c it shouldn't last more than 8 hours, and there is no way the tab contains 1350mg, no tab can hold that much. It would take several hundred tabs, perhaps even over a thousand, to hold 1350mg of compound.
If these tabs do indeed last over 24 hours your try likely contain DOC or some other DOx compound.
However it is impossible and very unsafe for us to say with any certainty what your tab contains, especially with such limited information.
If I were you I'd have these tabs tested.
I know very little about testing for NBOMe or DOx so someone else on the forum could possibly direct you to a good site or product for testing for these substances.

 

[crazycatman]

I dunno dude I think the NBOMes are probably the least anxiogenic of all psychedelics. I know that overdoses tend to show anxious behavior but that's gonna be the case for any psychedelic overdose, even something (relatively) benign like 100mg of 2C-B. If anxiety is a worry I think an NBOMe is perfect: it will give an idea of what the psychedelic mind state is like without actually fully bringing that mind state about. Whereas all the other compounds you mentioned are unquestionably fully psychedelic, as opposed to the 5-MeO-DALT-like pseudo-psychedelia of the NBOMes.

In summary as far as I am concerned as long as proper doses are taken and due caution is exercised, NBOMes are *the* ideal drugs to introduce a newbie to trippy compounds. The first time I tried an NBOMe that was pretty much my first thought upon effects manifesting.

Hi, I wasn't claiming that the nbomes are anxiogenic and that's it. They also have lots of other potentially bad effects, This is why I would avoid them for a first timer.

If I had to pick id give them some mushroms or lsd or one of those new lsd knockoffs (AL-LAD) or 4-ho-met or 2c-c and maybe even 2c-e. All those have a wide variety of psy effects, practicall no deaths atributed to them and relatively mild sides (except 2c-e if you're a person who's stomach can't take it). And have some benzos on hand just incase. Later he can trip on whatever he wants. At least that's how I see it.

 

[Anon0631]

1350μg is one fuck of a high dose for 25c-NBOMe. You should be starting in the 350-500μg zone.

 

[crazycatman]

Or skip the NBOMe part and give them the parent compound - 2c-c, 2c-i and so on.

Unless you're set on the NBOMes because they are cheap.

 

[His Name Is Frank]

First time or not, that is a very big dose to be taking. Read this guy's report located here. He took 350ug less than what you have and the first half of his trip was a complete nightmare. My advice would be to take about 400ug and if you feel you need to increase by say 100ug within 90 minutes, then do so. When you're dealing with such an incredibly low dosage as ug, there is very little margin for error. Remember this advice and take it to heart: You can always take more, but you can't take out what you've already put in your system. Just click on the report above and read some more while you're on Erowid. The average dose is around 350ug. Have fun and be safe.