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jameson08

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I'm gonna celebrate 4/20 by trying something new - acid! I'm gonna take 2 tabs after smoking a bit of weed and I was planning to go to an electronica/house show, but that isn't gonna work out. I now have the option of going to a punk rock show with some friends or just chilling, party hopping and smoking with some friends until they leave at 11 pm at which point I will meet up with some other friends.

What do you all recommend? I've been told that I should definitely try to go see some live music the first time I take acid, but that person was talking about electronica. Another friend told me that tripping for the first time at a punk show may be a bad idea. On the other hand, I think that seeing live music would be a blast.

What do you guys think? Also, any general tips for my first trip?

EDIT: To be clear, this is both my first trip on acid and my first real trip on psy's. I've taken 4-AcO DMT twice before, but apparently I didn't take enough either time because I only got some color visuals, nothing really strong.
 
Welcome to PD! And I hope you will have a nice 4/20 and also realize that 4/19 is bicycle day (look it up, by the way its also my bday!) so quite a coincidence, almost. : p

Definitely check our first time LSD thread: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/424317-LSD-Subthread-First-time-LSD
And please take it seriously, it's both an occasion to celebrate (first time acid, not 4/20) and to be very conscientious about. So don't browse over that thread too quickly and be open to the advice of others.

Most (including me) will strongly recommend you don't take LSD to a concert/show for your first time. I understand you want to make a real party of it but if all turns out well with the particular kind of acid you have it will be quite the experience to remember on its own, probably something to remember for the rest of your life even. Never mind a concert, there will be tons more in your life. But experiencing LSD for the first time is something you do only once.

At the same time, don't stress doing it right too much regarding the part you cannot control. If you have no friends who have taken this batch before it's hard to predict if it's even really LSD or how strong the effects will be. Especially in that case you don't want to have unexpectedly strong results while at a concert!

The reason for doing it among friends in a safe and secure but nice and cozy environment is that it's controllable. You can go take a walk if you feel you need one, or go inside if you feel like it. You can explore what you want and stop participating with things as well, it's important you have this freedom.

Taking LSD under uncontrollable circumstances is for people who have learned to keep the effects under control instead of the effects controlling thém. And even for those people it is always tricky.
 
You are about to receive a barrage of messages informing you that you should seriously reconsider.

First, you need to do quite a bit more research into Acid. It is a funky little substance to say the least. A punk rock show could be really, really fun but it might be too much for your first time. Chilling with friends sounds like a much better idea but only if they are people that you trust and know well. Things can quickly get difficult with LSD, it isn't easy.

My personal advice: do more research, read lots of trip reports. If it still sounds like something you want to try then I'd have a nice chilled experience at home. A sunny day is lovely coupled with access to a garden. Some nice down-tempo / psychedelic music will also help. Have some things to entertain you - nice lights etc - and create a little den into which you can crawl and relax. If you're feeling energetic and things are going well, try a little mission into the garden. Nature is wonderful whilst on acid.

Then once you tried it a few times maybe push things a little and try it at a gig or show.

Edit: Ignore my post - see above :)
 
Don't ignore it, especially the part about doing it with people you trust and know well is very valuable and I neglected to include that. All of this amounts to the factors meant by set & setting (yes we also have a separate thread for that, I trust that to also be highly educative for a first time tripper to be).

A few days is quite hurried, that's for sure. You need to ready your mind for something truly new, and also significant and possibly grand and all-pervading. To prepare yourself it matters more if you take it seriously and do a good bit of reading and come to rest within yourself than if you take a long time to do that. If you recognize you are still to tangled up with questions like if it's going to be a cool 4/20 and if your friends will like what you choose to do etc... then maybe just skip it. Unrest is not a good basis to take acid (i.e. confused mindset).

To make it more simple: choose if you find this day SO important that you want to do this, if so then you are committed. If committed, do the homework on LSD following that first time acid thread to begin with. Then make up your mind about how to approach this, and consider doing only half a dose first and try to find out what intensity you can expect from 1 hit.
 
I think I am going to take it a few hours before the concert. I will be with one of my very best friends who I would trust with anything. The concert will start roughly 5 hours after taking the tabs, so I shouldn't be freaking out. I am not worried about this, I am looking forward to it. I will have weed and cigarettes around to calm myself if I start freaking out for any reason before the show. And I can always not go if I don't feel up to it. I have done my research, read trip reports. I am sure I want to do this. I chose 4/20 because it will be the best time I have when I don't have to worry about being bothered by my anti-drug roommate and I will definitely have trustworthy people around, not because it's "the day" to do drugs.

Thanks for your help. I am looking forward to this.
 
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Well if your adamant about it, it's your call. But you might as well not have asked here. :?
 
5 hours in you should be able to judge pretty well if you want to go to the show or not. You should not set it in stone though. You may find that making a trip is just not in the cards, and sometimes if you feel like you have something that you HAVE to get to at a certain time...it can cause some anxiety. I enjoy an open schedule when I trip, I have taken hundreds of hits in my life and my favorites are always just on a sunny day with nothing specific to do. Crowds can be overwhelming and if your not REALLY into punk rock...you probably wont enjoy it on acid. However, being cramped up in a room can be overwhelming also. Sometimes it is nice to have alot of distractions around, so you dont spend too much time talking to yourself! Just always have an easy escape plan, dont corner yourself. It would also be a good idea to get yourself 1-2mg of Xanax, or klonopin...some kind of anti anxiety pill. Keep it in your pocket while you trip, and you can use it like an eject button if things get too heavy for you. It wont kill your trip fully, but it will help if you start to freak out and they are good for curing the after trip insomnia some get. Seems like you are positive about it, and it is something you are not hesitant about, so that's half the battle. Just try and stay positive and enjoy the ride. If you find yourself in a troubled mindstate, it always helps me to remind myself that I am on a drug and that is probably why I dont understand the clock or whatever I'm worried about.
 
jameson08 said:
I think I am going to take it a few hours before the concert. I will be with one of my very best friends who I would trust with anything. The concert will start roughly 5 hours after taking the tabs, so I shouldn't be freaking out. I am not worried about this, I am looking forward to it. I will have weed and cigarettes around to calm myself if I start freaking out for any reason before the show. And I can always not go if I don't feel up to it. I have done my research, read trip reports. I am sure I want to do this. I chose 4/20 because it will be the best time I have when I don't have to worry about being bothered by my anti-drug roommate and I will definitely have trustworthy people around, not because it's "the day" to do drugs.

Thanks for your help. I am looking forward to this.
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It sounds like you have no idea what you are in for. For starters a punk show is the last place most experience trippers would want to be. Angry, alcohol fuelled crowd with an angry mosh pit and loud screaming music (well, if it's a good punk show) is exactly the opposite of what you will want. I'm not suggesting to put on the chill out tunes and meditate but lsd is a drug that is greatly influence by the atmosphere around you. A chaotic crowd will cause you enough mental confusion to increase the odds of you losing your shit.

Trips last a long time, 5 hours will usually be half way and most people will be smack bang in the middle of their peak at this stage. It is a slow burn, just when you think things cannot not get any more crazy, things will get intense. You can be travelling fine until a dramatic change in setting cause a switch to flick and take you on a different tangent. Ditto if you are smoking weed. It will not always "calm you down", in fact more often than not it is recommended that you avoid weed even if you are an experience toker.

It is good that you will have a trip sitter but don't expect him to pull you out of trouble if things go pear shape. The best you can hope for sometimes is they keep you from doing something stupid. If you are still wanting to trip at a punk show I would half the dose and perhaps redose later in the evening once you have found your feet.
 
t + 5 hours is definitely not the peak of LSD, the effects are going to be still strong going but obviously diminished.

I'm not sure what the big deal is guys. At 5 hours, after taking 2 tabs, he (or at the very least his sitter) will be cogent enough to gauge whether or not going to a punk show is a good idea. He doesn't have to go.
 
More people lose their shit after the peak. I find most people experience the worst effects on the tail end when the mind tries to take over after the confusion of the peak. Before that there is too much going on for you to worry about much at all. It is more likely you will get into the show itself before you realise it is a bad idea. If I was a trip sitter I wouldn't be that impressed if I have to turn around and head home at that stage.
 
IamMe90 said:
I'm not sure what the big deal is guys. At 5 hours, after taking 2 tabs, he (or at the very least his sitter) will be cogent enough to gauge whether or not going to a punk show is a good idea. He doesn't have to go.
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True, didn't realize this - I read it wrong as if it was some kind of commitment to be there like at a festival.

Personally though I would just forget about the show because even if it enhances the experience, it's all pretty much 1 activity even if you go at T+5h. If it's the show you've been waiting for all year, then maybe. But he (/you) made it sound like a second choice gig that is 'also interesting'. Maybe the point is not: you risk freaking out, maybe it's rather that planning activities like that is a mistake for your first acid experience to begin with. If you are here and you want my advice:
Full on enjoy the trip itself, explore tiny objects and details outside in nature or inside your house or whatever. Yes a concert is cool once you've turned LSD into a regular 'enhancer' after a number of trips but with little or no experience I think it's a shame to consider LSD like that. Not in a 'respect for the compound' kind of way, but more that it's just not realistic IMO to try and imagine what would be cool to do when you are actually IN that state of mind. Because once you are tripping, there is a huge chance you will be interested in completely different things.
For example I have previously prepared myself for enjoying seeing a psychedelic image while tripping. But when the moment was actually there I was completely preoccupied with the most mundane things surrounding the occasion. And I think that is where the magic lies: in just exploring seemingly insignificant shit. If the insignificant becomes significant, then all becomes profound - that's kind of a trend I see in all my trips. The psychedelic image was actually the most boring and static thing I saw during the trip while everything that is normally boring and static was moving and alive.

And tripping for 5 hours in a controllable environment does not give you any guarantees on how you will react to going to an uncontrollable environment, so the same warning applies. Sorry, I'd just never do my first trip anywhere but comfortably and safely at home, with options to do pretty much anything reasonable I want - at home - and the adventurous part can be going on a stroll into nature or being driven randomly.
During my first trip my father randomly took me for a drive during the time the sun was set making the sky deep pink-red and everything was just amazing. We also took a walk earlier that day, and other than that I was just wondering about stuff like how colors taste. Do you start to see what I'm getting at?
 
Okay, based on all your comments I have come to a conclusion that will allow for enjoyment with freedom.

3:15 - take the 2 tabs
3:50 - meet up with 2 of my good friends who I trust. I should be coming up at this point. One is an experienced tripper, the other definitely has my best interests at heart. We will undoubtedly smoke a bit of weed since it's their 4/20 too.
6:30 - these friends leave to go to their punk show, and I now have some choices - I can go for a walk on my own, meet up with some friends who will be smoking and going to parties, or meet up with this girl and go to a rap show.
11:00 - if my first group of friends are out of their concert, I will meet up with them. if they are not, I will hang out with the aforementioned girl until they call me
Sometime between 11:30 and 1 - meet up with my original friends, walk around town smoking weed or drinking or just generally causing mischief. I should be pretty much done tripping by this point anyway. I will be crashing at one of these friends' houses, so I can always go there if I want to.

Seems pretty good to me. I will be outside pretty much the whole time, and the rap show is cheap enough that I would not feel bad if I just left halfway through because I was overwhelmed. I should not be bothered by anyone stressful during this entire evening.

Sound good?

EDIT: also, the girl I mentioned is a good friend and she gave me some Xanax for in case I get freaked out.
 
I would even reconsider taking 2 for my first time unless you know what kind you have.
I can think of at least 3 or 4 prints currently circulating that would completely smash a new user if 2 were taken. Fuck I can think of a print where 1 would probably send you into complete confusion and psychosis. Maybe it's just me but there is some VERY strong acid circulating at this point.

I couldn't agree more with Busty on this one. OP if you're taking acid for the first time you don't need to go to a concert or parties or anything like that, I don't think you realise just how amazing even the simplest of things can be whilst under the influence of this drug. The trees, the grass, the sky, the clouds, your favourite music on your headphones. Even just putting a little water on your hand and letting it run down your arm has been highly entertaining for me while on LSD :P

And I will also say that loud, unpredictable environments are best to steer clear from until you are more comfortable with this drug. I thought I was comfortable with it maybe the fifth or sixth time I did it. I took one relatively potent tab in a less than desirable environment and boy howdy did I get absolutely destroyed. This was because I ran off on my own as well, this is never a good idea when things start getting a little too real, to put it gently.

Acid can be amazing, but if you don't take it seriously and respect it, it can also be an absolute nightmare! Please for your own sake put a really good amount of thought into this and take the advice of the people on this thread.
Been there, done that so to speak.
 
I'd also try and do without the weed if you can.. Cannabis clouds the experience for me, kind of stirs the soup so the speak. The clarity on LSD is something I have only recently discovered as every time previously I had included Cannabis, almost like a reflex. I had always considered LSD a tumultuous and chaotic experience, something I've realized only happens if I have had Cannabinoids in my bloodstream in the previous hours or during the experience.. Sends me off into tangents and I have less lucidity when I combine LSD and Cannabis.

If I were to combine them again it'd be on a high dose indoor chillout type fry, like just sitting in my house with something to do and some herb to smoke.. Def never combining them in public again lol.. Take it or leave it man, I wish you luck!
 
I'll just give you a little story from my own experience - it was my first time. I was tripping with my girlfriend and our friend. Both were seriously experienced trippers. I'd tripped on mushrooms, aMT, 6-APB, MXE but never acid. I'd done my research - read extensively, got my mind prepared etc. Ending up taking 1.5 tabs - reliably informed they weren't very strong and this proved to be the case. The plan for the day - we dropped on a sunny afternoon - was to go for a little walk into university, then come home and relax.

Dropped and started to come up, everything was pretty good so we decided to go for a walk. The walk was pretty fun - took me a while to get my head around tripping in public but it was ok. Being the good trippers my girlfriend and friend are, they tried to keep me relaxed and reassure me throughout our little mission. This was nice and the sentiment very pure. However, it was at this point that acid (and my brain) intervened. Their reassuring started to grate on me - it was as if they were questioning my ability to trip. As I got closer to the peak, their reassurance started to confuse me - 'why were they telling me everything was ok, was I freaking out but couldn't tell?' This cycle started a bit of a feedback loop by which as I was told to relax I became more confused that I was having a bad time.

Anyway, the point. There was nothing wrong, they were just being nice. I was fine and having a good time. However, acid is funky. From a seemingly innocuous starting point, things quickly got over powering. I was so glad to get home, into a more controlled environment. Going out increase these variables several times over.

If you decide to drop - seems like you have - then stay relaxed and have fun.
 
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jameson08 said:
Okay, based on all your comments I have come to a conclusion that will allow for enjoyment with freedom.

3:15 - take the 2 tabs
3:50 - meet up with 2 of my good friends who I trust. I should be coming up at this point. One is an experienced tripper, the other definitely has my best interests at heart. We will undoubtedly smoke a bit of weed since it's their 4/20 too.
6:30 - these friends leave to go to their punk show, and I now have some choices - I can go for a walk on my own, meet up with some friends who will be smoking and going to parties, or meet up with this girl and go to a rap show.
11:00 - if my first group of friends are out of their concert, I will meet up with them. if they are not, I will hang out with the aforementioned girl until they call me
Sometime between 11:30 and 1 - meet up with my original friends, walk around town smoking weed or drinking or just generally causing mischief. I should be pretty much done tripping by this point anyway. I will be crashing at one of these friends' houses, so I can always go there if I want to.

Seems pretty good to me. I will be outside pretty much the whole time, and the rap show is cheap enough that I would not feel bad if I just left halfway through because I was overwhelmed. I should not be bothered by anyone stressful during this entire evening.

Sound good?

EDIT: also, the girl I mentioned is a good friend and she gave me some Xanax for in case I get freaked out.
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This still sounds like a pretty crappy plan. LSD is a drug that can severely impair normal cognition. A first-time user may have serious difficulty properly using a phone, keeping track of time, understanding what people are saying, etc. Even I would think twice before putting myself in a situation where I'll need to manage this much logistics while on acid, and I've tripped dozens and dozens of times. You're setting yourself up for a lot of confusion, frustration, and over-stimulation (in the form of all these concerts), which could seriously take away from your ability to enjoy your first trip, even if it doesn't lead to a total freak out.
 
People with little or no tripping experience seem to misunderstand an essential aspect of a psychedelic experience: immersion. I used to think tripping on acid was like watching a crazy movie instead of participating in a crazy scenario. I was so wrong. You are a part of your own trip, this completely changes the way you are. It may be easy to miss at first, and that way underestimate ways of impairment that may come along. So don't saddle yourself with difficulties, not even choices you mention.
In several trips I forgot how language works for example, I remember a housemate giving me a ride in his car and he was talking to me... I kept yelling at him to speak Dutch (talk normally). Imagine the other things that can suddenly prove difficult during a trip, they are endless. If it's not a big deal, then you can all laugh it off. But the message that resounds here is: forget about planned activities for your first trip. And care not that you skip them, because the trip is so much more interesting. You can go to concerts or parties another time. I get the 'leaving it all as options' idea but having them as options may prove much more confusing than sticking to a safe trusted environment that you can rely on to be during the length of the trip.

You are asking people who have been there, who made mistakes by trial and error and like to help others from avoiding making the same mistakes. Taking psychedelics is a package deal, as a rule I think everyone should realize that if you choose that package you pay by preparing properly and sacrificing some things that would have been awesome if it were a better idea. Going to crowded events, wherever, in your first trip is a well-known no-no in the scene. So sacrifice either the option of LSD or the option of (possible) events. And I don't really care about people who took their first hit at a festival and were fine, I mean good for them but they prove nothing. People who were not fine prove everything.

Tripping is nothing to get spastic over if a set of simple rules are applied, taking care of the golden "mindset and setting" factors. I wouldn't worry about it if you feel fine mentally and arrange for a controllable time and place to do it, with a minimal risk of nasty surprises and general question marks. But if you bend the rules, you invite difficult experiences and they can be tough.
 
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