First time taking 25i (NBOMe). Need advice on dosing...

[clicksclacks]

Looking for some advice on how much 25i to take. I've taken mushrooms dozens of times at varying doses (very high to very low) and consider myself pretty experienced in that area. Recently (dec 24th) I tried LSD for the first time. All very positive experiences.

I got some 25i laid out on a blotter which are supposedly 1,000ug each. Normally I'd prefer to wait longer after my acid experience, but a good friend of mine wants to trip and has a couple days off in a row for the New Year, so we've decided to do this tomorrow night. Now we can't decide whether to tear a tab in half and split it, or if we should each go with a full dose. My main concern is the blotter not being laid evenly and not really knowing how much each of us got. I've read that re-dosing a couple hours into the trip doesn't really work, either.

So is there any point to tearing the tab in half and hoping to get around 500ug each or would it make more sense to go with the full dose? I'm not really worried about the trip being too much for either of us to handle, but we just kind of wanted to kick back and chill. We will also be mixing this pot, I'm sure.

Thoughts and advice are appreciated.

 

[2002Tii]

I would start with no more than 500ug for my first time, the worry is not whether you can handle the trip but whether you or your friend will be in physical danger.

 

[clicksclacks]

Is there any way to really know if we're getting a somewhat even dose if we break the tab in half? Could it theoretically be possible that I would get a much stronger dose close to 1,000 anyway and my friend would get hardly anything?

 

[Transform]

It is unusual but entirely possible. What you could do is put the tab into a few mls of hot water and then split that between you to ensure and even dose. If you use a small amount of water than you could even insufflate the liquid which will allow you to come up faster. This means that if you do not feel physically uncomfortable after half an hour you could even dose a little more if you wanted,

 

[clicksclacks]

Okay thanks- we might try that.

 

[porkstock]

i wouldn't snort it...seems like that produces a lot more bad results than buccal/sublingual administration.

for harm reduction purposes, i'd cut the blotter in half (you can do so fairly accurately with a pair of scissors). hold it between your cheek and upper gum, and try to hold your spit in your mouth for about an hour. 25-x-nbome chemicals apparently don't work if swallowed.

500 ug might be a pretty mild trip, but 1 mg could also be too much. people have had seizures from this chemical, so that's a great reason to start low. (usually it seems the people who had a seizure snorted it)

if you feel the need to take more than 500 ug, you could always take ~2/3 of a blotter (~667 ug) or ~3/4 (~750 ug).
i probably wouldn't take a whole blotter to start.

 

[clicksclacks]

Great, thanks. I was reading through the threads and I did notice that the most problems seemed to occur when this was snorted, so I'm not even going to go there. I think I'm going to break a corner off and go the 2/3s route. I'll report back after the New Year if anyone is interested.

 

[weadazoid]

Quick heads up...


go to the vitamin store near you and get some magnesium and potassium in suplement form. Take it before you dose yerself


it will help with vascoconstriction and negative body load.


If you are going sublingual wait a good hour to judge then if you feel all warm and comfy you could always redose. if you are gonna break it up into 3rds you should be fine

 

[doomsdayguy]

Another great way to deal with the body load is to eat a marijuana edible when you dose.

I absolutely recommend half a tab for this chemical... My first time was a 1mg tab and although there was a pretty good amount of vasoconstriction, the visuals were insane and the peak was almost ego death inducing... The response curve just isn't linear so it's a good idea to start moderately low for a first time.

 

[Survived Abortion]

I don't know why vendors insist on selling their blotterized NBOMes at max dosages like this; to me it seems really stupid. Someone else recently said this (and I entirely agree), but I think if they are going to put it on blotters and sell it they should offer them at 250ug or at least 500ug doses so people can easily make their doses up. The whole cookie-cutter "one humongous trip fits all" approach that vendors take to selling their blotters is ridiculous, but more importantly, it's dangerous.

If there are any vendors reading, I urge you to reconsider your current practices in this regard.

Getting the powder and measuring it out in liquid is a much safer way of dosing than blotters, but if you have these blotters then you need to do the best you can. Yes, soaking them in a small quantity of vodka or wotnot is a good idea, but snorting the resulting liquid is a bad idea to re-iterate what others have said. It hits so fast when taken intranasally compared to sublingually, your body has far less time to acclimatize to the effects and the perceived result is something far more intense.

Cutting it in half with scissors or a sharp knife should suffice really; I find it hard to imagine that the liquid wouldn't have been evenly distributed enough in the paper during aliquoting so as to make cutting it in half an unreliable way of dividing the dose in two. A drop of liquid on blotter paper should spread out pretty evenly, and on a tiny square such as that used to deliver sub-milligram doses of drugs, it would probably reach almost if not all the way to the sides.