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Cocaine first time smoking crack question

i would not recommend speedballing at same time. i normally use crack , or shoot coke, then when i run out, shoot dope for the comedown. crack CAN BE DANGEROUS. i have had taken hits many times where i thought i was going to have a heart attack as my legs started to tingle, y face, i got dizzy, heart pounding, u run out of breathe easily from the rush..so take it easy
 
Just don't be an idiot. Some people can't handle opies as well as others. I'm not trying to brag, but I would always be able to do large ammounts of heroin, oxycodone, or oxymorphone and still function pretty close to 100%. Mixing Cocaine was simple for me. I just did a couple lines here and there during the duration of the night.

If you are someone who gets completely knocked out by opiates don't fuck with mixing cocaine/crack into the mix. You will be too out of it to make smart judgements and you will die.
 
Personally id pseudo speedball and try to do the dope and base at the same time, saving soem dope for after all the base is gone so you dont have a bad comedown.
 
Yeah, the key to any long IV coke or crack session for me.. was to always have dope for the comedown. I usually start off with a fat speedball, so I get the best of both worlds, then.. in order to not waste the dope, I'd do shots of straight coke until the stash ran out and then, do a big shot of plain heroin so I wasn't hopping onto the subway immediately after banging my last hit of coke to score more..hah.
 
xstayfadedx said:
Yeah... When you smoke crack you just want to keep re-dosing. Shit that's all we did till all the crack was gone. The only reason we stopped smoking was because we didn't have anymore crack... That was to the penguinheadphones whatever dude, I forget his username. But yeah smoking crack is like eh to me but when I had it I didn't want to stop smoking the shit. Then you gotta chase the high and look for rocks you dropped... Even if they're there or not.
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How many nights I spent looking for that rock I "knew" I dropped on the rug!!
 
i don't like soft but i'm a fiend for hard good thing i was taken away from that lifestyle sadly i feel into a pain killer addiction
 
I smoked like 8 or 9 times of stuff the people who paid or wanted it said was excellent, a sample from a guy wanting buy (or trade for) my Caddy, big chunks on ashes, and never felt a thing. Well something, on par with a morning Red Bull and kind of snapping out of a deep thought staring at the wall trance . Was observed not inhaling properly, or firing it up right, but what the hell that means I get nothing out of it and you just creamed? Cant say I lack good receptors because I like powder more than sex. Can't figure it out but its probably a good thing. Especially for me whatever it is its that first rush I keep trying to get back. People I know with identical preferences saying its best in life and fearing a steady hook to come along. For whatever reason though after numerous tries can't relate to or understand firsthand what drives people to sad and tragic lengths over. Or pay one dollar for.

Like the smell for some reason

Does not bring out the best in people. A group hitting the chore is the polar opposite of flower children communing around a hookah full of kush or a rave or something. People get real shitty theres a vibe in the air to be ready for anything
 
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really dude, just do the dope and leave the crack alone, if you can get some powder cocaine, go ahead and try that, but crack is disgusting and not worth it...save yourself the money and save your lungs save your teeth and save your brain. its not something you wanna get into, crack is a really horrendous drug and what it does to its users is absolutely horrible and disgusting. a
 
if you never had a problem with coke, why not just be happy about that instead of trying more addictive and generally more potent forms of it?

I used to smoke crack, shoot crack, shoot powder, the works. it was the most down and out miserable time of my life. I would rather be addicted to any other drug then crack or i.v. coke. the buzz is amazing but you already thinking about another hit before u even pull out the needle or put down the pipe, and i mean really wanting another hit. if you have money in the bank forget about it, money in your wallet is pretty much gone if you start smoking crack. the whole thing is a fucking mess. and the high brings out the worst in people, horrible paranoia, not wanting to talk to people or watch tv or listen to music or anything like that. your gonna do what you want to do but you made this thread for a reason, maybe trying to get others to help justify it to yourself, maybe looking to be talked out of it, but I dont know why all I know is you should listen to people who've lost everything to it before you make a decision.
 
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I've found that I enjoy coke, both hard & soft more as I've aged (I'm 50 this year). When I was young I was hyper anyway, & stimulants just made me worse. I had to forego all stimulants for a year in the mid 80's to stop getting psychotic flashes after bong hits. Now I'm too slow if anything (probably related to the 40mg methadone per day for 16 years & all that implies etc.).
For me, the key thing with stimulants in general is to have something to bring you down fast when it runs out - this will make spunking all your cash and/or nasty comedown less likely. I've recently found Gabapentin(not controlled drug in UK) very effective, which is prescribed for back pain/neuropathy/epilepsy etc. in huge quantities, as tolerance rises very fast, but they're great if you take them less often, & they mix pleasantly with anything it seems. Certainly removes the urge to smoke breadcrumbs picked off the carpet & the rest of the symptoms.

But you never know with charlie, down508 posted the truth - doesn't take much to send you on a seriously destructive binge. Its a waste of cash in a way that opiates or weed could never be - its got a bit in common with gambling in that sense.
 
juzcurious said:
I have always said crack is evil. Some people(and some people i know) just cant stop themselves. Its sad. Ive watched someone crawl around looking for rocks then hear a noise and jump up and peer out the window thinking the cops were there to get him.
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i can honestly say, if i ran out of crack after an all night binge, i'd do the same damn thing
 
shooting cocaine is so fucking dangerous thats like playing russian roulette, i dont think ANYONE can steadily be a functionally long term cocaine shooter on the daily, u will end up dead, even smoking crack can cause a massive heart attack, plus mixing coaine with herin at once, ur heart is trying to pump fast, then slow, whoknows it can get coinfused and u go thru cardiac arrest. me personally ill shoot cocaine,, and shoot dope when im ready to come down
 
opiatekrzy said:
shooting cocaine is so fucking dangerous thats like playing russian roulette, i dont think ANYONE can steadily be a functionally long term cocaine shooter on the daily, u will end up dead, even smoking crack can cause a massive heart attack, plus mixing coaine with herin at once, ur heart is trying to pump fast, then slow, whoknows it can get coinfused and u go thru cardiac arrest. me personally ill shoot cocaine,, and shoot dope when im ready to come down
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The whole speedballs messing with your heart by making it go up and down, etc, really isn't true. It's the coke that isn't good for your heart, heroin doesn't effect/slow your heart rate, only promotes respiratory depression.

The real dangers in speedballs is the risk of delayed overdose. Because the drugs mask the effects of each other, the user is able to do a lot more of each than they would ever be able to do if they were doing the drugs separately. So, having IV'ed a lot of coke for example, one is now able to do a lot of dope because the coke is masking the euphoria. But once the coke wears off, all that heroin you did is still depressing your breathing and can lead to OD much later then it normally would, giving you a false sense of security. It happens in reverse too with too much H masking the effects of coke, allowing the user to IV more and more, resulting in a coke OD.
 
With regards to crack, any drug whose high lasts 5 to 30 seconds for 10 dollars is bad news.
 
Op what happened? Did you like the crack so much you pawned your computer to get more and that is why there is no update?
 
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