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Never done any psychedelics unless you consider MDMA one, but I don't. Currently I am only interested in trying the 2C class of drugs. 2C-B sounds like it would be the best for me, seeing as it sounds like the most mild(?) Although I can only get my hands on 2C-P at the moment. After reading Erowid's reports on it, it sounds pretty fucking intense. Would this be too much to handle for a first time psychedelic user? I would be orally dosing at about 10mg.
 
There's really no good answer for that. Each different psychedelic hits everyone with different effects, it seems. If it's your first time using a psychedelic, just make sure you're in a very comfortable place and with a friend, and have nothing to do for a few days afterwards. Some people may recommend you take a small dose for your first time, but I think an average dose is best. You don't want to overdo it but just the same you don't want to under do it, or else it won't be psychedelic but it will just be a state of inebriation of a strange kind. I've actually thought that beginners using psychedelics are better off taking slightly more than people who are more experienced, but i don't want to say that with 2C-P because it is a more dangerous compound than more common psychedelics like acid or shrooms, a compound that I have never even tried. Judging by erowid, 10mg looks good.
 
If you can get 2c-B go for it man I find it to be a beautiful and forgiving psyche. I would even consider upping the dose to 20mg so that you really get a feel for what trippings like since 10mgs really isn't that much.

EDIT: saw you were talking about the p with the 10mgs so disregard the dose stuff ha.
 
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2c-p is pretty intense and long-lasting, I'd go for another 2c like 2c-i. And I wonder why you limit yourself to 2c's?
 
B.mans said:
2c-p is pretty intense and long-lasting, I'd go for another 2c like 2c-i. And I wonder why you limit yourself to 2c's?
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Yeah thats what kinda worries me. The only 2C I can get is the P at the moment though. And I limit myself to this because I don't want to trip alone, and the couple friends that are willing to do it with me dislike acid and shrooms, so my options are pretty narrow.
 
why choose RC's ? why not go for a low dose of mushrooms, say around 2 grams, a much more organic and beautiful experience in my opinion.
 
Please do not use 2C-P as your first entheogenic experience. The duration and sheer intensity of the compound will most likely be far too intense, especially at that high of a dose. The body load could possibly take away from the beauty of the experience, and you'll be stuck tripping for nearly half a day.

Just a little advice: don't think of any compound as 'too' mild, any psych has the ability to knock you on your ass, no matter how gentle it is claimed to be. I would just wait and prepare yourself until you have more options TBPH.. I just don't want you to take a gamble when you could wait and have a higher possibility of a better first trip. Keep looking, I would suggest the halogenated series, allkylated 2C's to be more in your face and anxiogenic.
 
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Low to medium dose mushrooms.

Psilocybin is profoundly psychedelic, and manageable in smallish doses.
Have a sitter, some mellow music, and prepare yourself mentally.

Above all, enjoy :)
 
^ everyone should stop with th mushroom talk. The OP wants to try a 2C, not 4-PO-DMT. You guys aren't giving information relevant to the OPs interest.

Mushrooms can be incredibly chaotic, unpredictable, and most of all ILLEGAL. Stop suggesting something that our first time tripper isn't interested in. And btw, organic has nothing to do with the quality of an experience. Plant based drugs tend to be more likely to induce mindfuck, and they are notoriously inconsistent as far as dosing is concerned. Let's keep with the PEA's!

May allylscaline or escaline could be good for a first time, provided the dose is moderate.
 
IMO, 2c-b is the ideal psychedelic for a first time user. Gentle, fairly predictable, short duration. 2c-i and 2c-c fit into this category reasonably well, also. This is not the case with 2c-p, however, and I would not suggest it for a newcomer. I you must do 2c-p, dose small(less than 10mg first time) and use volumetric dosing as scales can be somewhat inaccurate at such low masses. It takes a long time to kick in, so don't be tempted to redose.

Good luck!
 
What's the reason your friends are opposed to mushrooms? If it's just the legality or having to eat the things you could try 4-aco-dmt. It's a lot more easygoing than shrooms
 
It sounds to me like you're probably going to take the 2cp, and may just be looking for a little reassurance from the drug community. Chances are you'll take it and be totally fine, you may even have some amazing life changing experience, but I reccomend dosing low. The first time I ever took a psychedelic they were mushrooms, and I only ate about 1.7, a dose that I now would consider to be really low, but since it was such a novel experience it was still fantastic. So just take a low dose of the 2cp if you're set on doing it, chances are you won't be underwhelmed.
 
Alexander Shulgin said:
IMO, 2c-b is the ideal psychedelic for a first time user. Gentle, fairly predictable, short duration. 2c-i and 2c-c fit into this category reasonably well, also. This is not the case with 2c-p, however, and I would not suggest it for a newcomer. I you must do 2c-p, dose small(less than 10mg first time) and use volumetric dosing as scales can be somewhat inaccurate at such low masses. It takes a long time to kick in, so don't be tempted to redose.

Good luck!
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Exactly what I was thinking, thanks for your input
 
dextrorfan said:
It sounds to me like you're probably going to take the 2cp, and may just be looking for a little reassurance from the drug community. Chances are you'll take it and be totally fine, you may even have some amazing life changing experience, but I reccomend dosing low. The first time I ever took a psychedelic they were mushrooms, and I only ate about 1.7, a dose that I now would consider to be really low, but since it was such a novel experience it was still fantastic. So just take a low dose of the 2cp if you're set on doing it, chances are you won't be underwhelmed.
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Im not set on taking it, I'm looking for opinions on whether or not it would be too intense for a first timer. So you're advice is just take a lower dose?
 
^ no matter what the dose, the duration will still be a problem or at least annoying. I think it's just to heavy in the mind no matter what. If you want 2C-B, which I would suggest, keep up with the search! Possibly 2C-C or 2C-D could be good for you as well.
 
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^ no matter what the dose, the duration will still be a problem or at least annoying. I think it's just to heavy in the mind no matter what. If you want 2C-B, which I would suggest, keep up with the search! Possibly 2C-C or 2C-D could be good for you as well.
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Gotcha. Yeah the total duration on Erowid was said to be 10-20 hours. Im semi-paranoid that if I have a bad trip or something of that sort, it will be 10-20 hours of complete hell. I think I'll do exactly that; keep searching for the 2C-B and not fuck with this 2C-P.
 
^ you are definitely taking the right path. I think 2C-P, can wait for later. Do what your heart desires while being mindful of duration/dose/intensity.
 
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