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First time male and female dose

Lets say you want to take 100mg for a good roll. would you then measure out 100mg of the total product OR take into account that you know only 80% is molly so you weigh it out to 126mg to get that 100mg of molly you want?
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I think your getting a bit hooked up in the 84% issue. The question you are asking here will only ever be hypothetical as you will never have this level of detail available. Even if you posted the stuff to ecstasy data then they would only tell you the ratios not the dose (due to a DEA restriction).

but..

To answer your question as there is nothing worse than some dick who sais read the FAQ why do you want to know etc? this is the answer i think you are craving for.

When you refer to 84% MDMA you are referring to MDMA molecule bonded to acid molecule. Ie MDMA hydrochloride (or MDMA HCL) in the case of hydrochloride its MDMA + hydrochloric acid molecule. Ie an ionic bond that forms the salt you injest.

In this bond the two molecules posses a different weight (ie mass) the MDMA molecule is heavier that the Acid molecule hence occupies 84% of the weight and the other 16% of the weight is occupied by the acid molecule.

this is why MDMA in HCL form can only be 84% pure because to be in a salt form such as HCL it by its mass forms 84% of the weight.

If the salt were to change say MDMA sulphate. (this is a bond with sulphuric acid) then the purity changes as the mass of the sulphuric acid molecule is different so the ratios between the MDMA and sulphuric molecule are different. i hope this makes sense ;) maybe one day I might draw some pictures and try and make this easier to digest. Its really simple just kinda tricky to explain in words. LOL.

So as you can see its kinda technical and unnecessary information. I suspect all you are doing on here is figuring out how to get fucked up successfully and safely correct?

this is why we try and brush off the 84% myth because it CONFUSES ravers and dealers use it for SALES HYPE.
 
Hey guys and gals. Update! First off thank you for all your help and insight. So let's get started, took 100mg and girl took 70mg around 40 min we both started feeling it, just up and kinda overwhelmed at first because didn't know what to expect so we decided to take a little walk and get a breather that's when it really hit me and suddenly didn't feel like walking and decided to go back home with my amazing girl. Got home and it really hit her and we were just experience it and just in awe about what was just ingested and how something could make you feel so good. We just layed around played music and talked about random stuff not too much interesting there just talking about random stuff about 1 1/2 hr in we redose, me at 50mg her at 25mg. A little down the road we get hit with it and we are on the same level feeling so amazingly good, we are a really in love couple but this love was fucking insane. We were sitting in my bathroom(dunno why we chose there haha) but ya she was sitting on top of me as I was leaning against the shower sitting down and we were just getting lost in each other's eyes, not looking away and there was no awkwardness it was just like we were staring into each other's souls. She kinda started to slur and talk kind of like a deaf person and she said that her tongue was kinda numb and that's the way she was talking that way, dunno if that's normal(let me know if that happens or not I'm curious) but it was the cutest thing ever. We had the most amazing convos ever, talking about life and our love and we cleared up so much between us, we became so much closer. During this she brushed against me and I became hard instantly, it was crazy I was assuming it would be difficult to accomplish after reading about it. And she took it out and we were just talking and having great convos as she was touching me. It wasn't anything out of lust it was just love between us. It was the craziest thing. We decide to go to bed and end up making the most amazing love ever for about two hours, she was really sore due to prior sessions earlier in the week but she had no problem with it. She said she felt no pain at all. It was amazing to be so close with the person I love. It was mind blowing, it wasn't that it felt that much better, in fact it was a little numb but the emotional feeling was insane we were almost crying out of happiness it was so crazy. None of us finished but that's not what it was about, it was the journey. The most amazing journey to ever experience with the love of my life. After we decided to stop we just cuddled and talked and came down slowly and then after we were more down we just fell asleep. The next day we were a little sad but not too bad but it was seriously so amazing. One of the best experiences of my life. So happy I did it. Am currently taking 5-htp to help with getting the mood back up. But it was so fucking amazing and I thank you all for your help
 
p-helix said:
300mg is way too much when dealing with pure MDMA powder. You may be talking about a fatal or near-fatal overdose.

This woman lost her teenage daughter to an MDMA overdose, approximately 500mg.

Mother of a teenager killed by ecstasy calls for drugs legalisation
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Please don't give in to scaremongering just because the BBC tells you something, no need to spread further untruths about this substance, there are plenty out there as it is. 300mg is a way too high dose for a newcomer but nowhere near fatal, not by a long shot. The girl in the paper died of other complications (fake product, water poisoning, overheating, drug coctail, pre-existing medical condition,...) not directly from 500mg of MDMA, unless perhaps in the rare case she was allergic. 500mg is not a fatal dose either, again not by a long shot, though such a dose will completely wreck you it won't kill you unless complications arise other than just an OD

Everything else has been answered so I have nothing more to add

To Brandnewrollee: I am very glad it went so well :D now you know why we like this substance that much. Once you are a bit more experienced in it, please try to spread as much advice you heard here among your friends as you can, that's how harm reduction works best. About the numb tongue, I've never heard this before but I'm not saying it couldn't happen. Are you sure her speech wasn't impaired because of her jaw muscles stiffening up? That's actually very common.

Stay safe and happy rollings!
 
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It could have been due to jaw muscles but the reason I said tongue is because she said her tongue felt numb/loose that's why she was talking like that
 
My guess would be that her mouth and tongue were a bit numb and tired from over-exercise and over-stimulation. I've indeed had times where my tongue and mouth felt really strange from being stimulated, moved and played with all constantly. Combined with a lot of kissing I would say that it was muscle fatigue. Most important thing is that your stuff was tested, so whatever the cause is, it's a side-effect from MDMA-use and harmless.

Everyone reacts slightly different and has slightly different physical effects from MDMA. I have a mate whose right eyebrow lifts up in a frown every time he rolls. It's really really funny and it's always his right eyebrow, he looks like he's in doubt about something the entire night =D
 
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