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I'm off to vegas for the weekend (4 days) and will bring along a bunch of goodies - mdma, mda, 2cb, meph to name a few.

I've also obtained a few tabs of lsd, which I've never tried but was intending for this weekend. I've heard the effects are quite long and that the best time to take would be during the daytime, then perhaps add others towards the evening. I've taken the above list several times before, mushrooms a few times and 25i once, all at low to med doses, no serious comedown probs except the one evening mushrooms/MDA/2cb/25i in succession left me a hollowed out zombie for a few hours the next morning lol.

For some reason, I'm having alot more excitedness/nervousness at dropping acid for the first time, mostly because of what I've read/heard - am I blowing things out of proportion? Also, if you had 4 days to spend in vegas, which day what time of day would you choose to take it if you also had the above to play with? Definitely intend on an mdma/mda combo and 2cb-meph combo in there as well.
 
You have psychedelic experience with 2cb and 25i so you'll be fine.
LSD is a very easy psychedelic to handle, sure the length is long but it's very clear headed.
Most stories about LSD are blown out of proportion. I had the same fear before I tried from stories I heard labeling it as powerful psychedelic which can easily make you insane, not true.
While it can be extremely powerful so can 2cb and 25i.
I would normally take it first and would maybe do it around 4-6pm if you're planning on staying out late that night and want to be high but not peaked when you start partying, as 25 chemicals are notorious for giving you huge long lasting tolerances.
 
Honestly I wouldn't take it in Vegas, just because Vegas is the American symbol of lavishness, consumerism, etc. and I wouldn't be able to get those thoughts out of my head.

However, it's going to be more similar to shrooms than the 25i. However IME, every psychedelic takes you to the same place, just with different "intentions". If you've done a psychedelic before, no other psychedelic is going to surprise you too much as a rule of thumb.
 
Vegas is the symbol of the American Dream, a place for mad men to find true pleasure. Full of hookers and gambling, this place is pure hedonism. These concepts are hi-laaaar-ious when you're on acid, so nah, the setting is perfect. You should definitely read Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas on the way there if you haven't done so yet. You should look for a quiet and safe spot beforehand for if you do start to feel some unease about your surroundings.

As for time, guessing you're taking both and they're of average potency (60-70ug?) the timeframe shouldn't be too long. You'll be down between 8-10 hours, I'd take it around 6-7pm personally.

You're taking a lot of serotonin release along with you though, be wary because afterwards you'll be drained. I'd go for first day drinking and spending all of all your money (just to get a feel for the place), second day LSD, third day/fourth day either MDA/MDMA combo or 2C-B/Mephedrone combo depending on which kills you the most
 
I don't really carry any negative connotations about Vegas, for me it's just a fun place to take recreational substances overall :)

Incidentally, however, the last few times I've taken what are considered psychedelics (shrooms, 2cb, 25i) have all been in casino settings, and all I've ever achieved were body buzzes and slight visuals - no mind-warping life-changing insights etc. I guess most here would consider the flashing lights n card counting at the tables a distraction for appreciating something like LSD, correct? Maybe I should save it for another time after all...
 
You should do what feels best. For personal insight, there are better chemicals for that IMO, so you're not really wasting your opportunity to have the deepest night of your life or whatever. It's not like that is the only purpose of psychedelics, recreationally they're crazy but fun.

On the other hand, LSD in a good setting is absolutely amazing and totally worth it to save if you're looking for both a profound and a fun experience. If you're looking for pure insight, again, something like mushrooms are/is* a better tool (for me at least). But LSD strikes a perfect balance that not a lot of chemicals are able to touch, which is good for both hedonism and spirituality

*Seriously, which one do you use in this situation?
 
I wouldn't bother with the acid seeing as you're just throwing into a drug salad. It sounds like you're not interested in what it will have to offer you anyway.

I would do one of the following:

1) Leave all the other drugs at home and just bring the acid (it doesn't have to be a high dose). Take the acid and let it expose the absurdity of runaway consumerism that Las Vegas embodies. Follow it up with a few days or weeks drug free and contemplating your new perspective.

2) Leave the acid at home. Take all the other drugs to Vegas. Spend your time wasted, looking at the pretty lights and ignoring the socio-political reality of the place you're in.

Just my opinion of course.
 
Anon0631 said:
I wouldn't bother with the acid seeing as you're just throwing into a drug salad. It sounds like you're not interested in what it will have to offer you anyway.

I would do one of the following:

1) Leave all the other drugs at home and just bring the acid (it doesn't have to be a high dose). Take the acid and let it expose the absurdity of runaway consumerism that Las Vegas embodies. Follow it up with a few days or weeks drug free and contemplating your new perspective.

2) Leave the acid at home. Take all the other drugs to Vegas. Spend your time wasted, looking at the pretty lights and ignoring the socio-political reality of the place you're in.

Just my opinion of course.
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I think this is pretty good advice despite your pro acid/anti vegas biases :)

Along these lines, how bout just considering the lsd as part of a candyflip and leave it at that?
 
^ I'm not pro acid. It's not my favourite psychedelic by far. At least not these days. It might be again one day I suppose. I'm just identifying what it's good for.
 
I would not take the lsd imo. Its your first time with the substance(lsd) and with these specific blotters, i think you would have a better time being in a more familiar/comfortable environment/setting and it would be "safer" ime. lsd is awesome though i love the stuff it treats me very well its lovely to consume lsd anytime of the day ime, if what you have is quality lsd theres a high chance you will thoroughly enjoy yourself when you do indulge ime. i also would consume the lsd when you have time to re coop and when your not taking a handful of other drugs, lsd can be a commitment at moderate/higher doses but its apart of it ime.

I would just do the mdma/mda combo and 2cb-meph combo, if your experienced with those i think you would enjoy yourself more.

Just my 2 cents.

Do what makes you the most happy and what your the most confident with though. Have fun be safe.
 
I mean for me and my gf a Vegas hotel room/pool/casino is our "safe" environment to roll/trip; it's all pretty much self-contained, plenty of public restrooms if needed and free liquids everywhere (my nyc apartment is tiny and we'd prolly have a much higher risk of hurting/embarassing ourselves at home lol).

What I'm trying to understand is the "depth" of an LSD trip, seems like everyone writes about how mind-changing experience it can be -- do they mean you need to be sitting in a dark room with nocturnes playing in the bg and just tripping into your own thoughts by yourself? I'm a bit skeptical of that side of recreational substances, certain drugs after my first time definitely taught me to relax and enjoy myself more, cutting through the anxiety/paranoia, but something that would change your whole perception of life? Hmmmm. . .
 
LSD can carry quite a mindfuck, but I've never had any introspection on it, but again I've only done it maybe 10 times.
For me LSD is my party drug and mushrooms are more for their depth and character.
However being in public on mushrooms isn't fun for me, even being around sober people is uncomfortable, it just feels like they aren't on your wavelength and they make you feel less high
 
Anon0631 said:
I wouldn't bother with the acid seeing as you're just throwing into a drug salad. It sounds like you're not interested in what it will have to offer you anyway.

I would do one of the following:

1) Leave all the other drugs at home and just bring the acid (it doesn't have to be a high dose). Take the acid and let it expose the absurdity of runaway consumerism that Las Vegas embodies. Follow it up with a few days or weeks drug free and contemplating your new perspective.

2) Leave the acid at home. Take all the other drugs to Vegas. Spend your time wasted, looking at the pretty lights and ignoring the socio-political reality of the place you're in.

Just my opinion of course.
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Completely agree. Don't even candy flip. Explore something new and take it for what it is. You can always try combining things when you know what that one substance gives you.
 
What you should definitely do, if you haven't already, is watch Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, but that's life advice, not relevant to the thread.

I haven't found LSD to be affected by distractions, in fact it's probably a more "resilient" experience than most other drugs, certainly moreso than phenethylamines. It's a pretty universal thing that sensory distortion decreases with visual stimulation, though, and whatever you're on, being in a casino will certainly tone down the visual effects of the drug. The other stuff should be all there. So I'd say go for it; you've done mushrooms, you'll be fine.

Only thing -- you should probably take 2C-B the day after MDMA, as it seems to help the comedown. I'd suggest LSD the first day, then molly, then 2C-B. I don't ever suggest meph, but that part is up to you.
 
atara said:
What you should definitely do, if you haven't already, is watch Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, but that's life advice, not relevant to the thread.
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And read it too! I have never been to Vegas but the number of things you could do there 24 hours a day sounds pretty sweet. Some people hate that type environment, like Disneyland tripping, but if you are open to it you can have a great trip there for sure. My last camping trip with LSD rained and it sucked, the great outdoors aren't always so great. My only suggestion is no rigid schedule of what you want to do, just play it by ear. If you are doing something really fun and your gf wants to leave make sure you do, when I am on acid sometimes I want to get out of a place right freaking now, not even for a good reason either, just bad vibes.
 
atara said:
It's a pretty universal thing that sensory distortion decreases with visual stimulation, though, and whatever you're on, being in a casino will certainly tone down the visual effects of the drug.

Only thing -- you should probably take 2C-B the day after MDMA, as it seems to help the comedown. I'd suggest LSD the first day, then molly, then 2C-B. I don't ever suggest meph, but that part is up to you.
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Ok that was counterintuitive for a newbie, I always thought visual distortions would be most apparent in a casino-type setting with all the added lights n sounds - no wonder I always felt a bit disappointed in that dept.

Regarding 2cb, it's quickly becoming my personal fav, even at low doses it feels like someone is actually massaging my head, just pure and gentle bliss. Gonna try to go for a higher than usual dose this weekend to explore further (around 30mg) as I hear the dosage curve is quite steep.
 
Visuals no, but it's still a lot of stimulation for your brain to handle.
It can make you really confused and even delerious f you dose to much in such a busy noisy environment
 
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