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first time hydrocodone? (dosage and cwe/booze)

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hey guys. I is looking forward to spring break this week and keeping a good buzz. I smoke marijuana pretty regularly, and I also drinks regularly. typical teenager stuff. I is a short guy and about 120 pounds. anyways, I decided to do something different for spring break and bought some vicodins. I has got 12 pills, 11 of them are the 5 mg hydro and one is 7.5 mg hydro. I is looking forward to enjoying their first time on it, but my question is should I do a CWE? they've read shit loads about it and even did it once on a single vicodin like a year ago. it seems pretty easy and straightforward. most people would say it's not necessary, but because I am small and plans on drinking steadily for the week, should I go ahead and do it? also based on their research I plans on doing 17.5 mg for their first experience. sound like a good number?

just to clarify, I is worried about liver damage with that amount of APAP and alcohol and also worried about the potential loss of the drug when doing a CWE.
 
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Start low and work up. The typical dosage of APAP at which damage occurs begins at 3000mg and goes up from there depending on source.

I would not do the CWE just yet. Also, you only have 62.5 mg of hydrocodone. I think it would be a waste of product.
 
We dont use SWIM here, We know its you...

Anyways, how much APAP in in your vicodins? If it is your first time using them then please dont drink on them!

17.5 is a good starting number for a nice high I would say and smoke some weed on top of that and youll be in a good place for sure.

CWE is not needed if your only taking 4-5 pills. Just please save the drinking for another day.
 
you dont need to do a cold water extraction unless the dose of APAp is over 2g's. i would suggest taking 10 or 15 mg's of hydro your first time so a CWE is not even necessary. And do not mix APAP wit alchohol, that is horrible for your liver.
 
sorry about the SWIM thing i didn't realize you were allowed to say yourself... anyways, it would be 1750 mg of APAP. but i plan on drinking heavily whenever the hydro high wears off so i mean i'm just thinking better safe than sorry...
 
Just to let you know opioids aren't really a very upbeat social drug and will mess with your dick. My trips down south during spring break (reading break up in Canada :\) I only used opioids to treat hangovers in the morning. Anyways a CWE on all the pills at once and then dosing by concentration as you want will be your best bet I suppose.

First time dosage questions belong in Basic Drug Discussion so I shall move this over there for you.

OD >>> BDD
 
Just posted in another thread about my horrible first time experience with Vicodin. I am also 120-125 pounds. I took 20 mg as I was un-experienced and did not know about this website or do my research. This was too high and started recieving heart palpitations after trying to wake up from nodding out. Not enjoyable. Too high of a dose. I would recommend 10-15mg tops.
 
Im looking forward to Hydrocontins because all this apap sucks. I havent done any CWE because I havent taken many in one day but when the day comes, i will need to do CWE & I have a feeling I will waste some hydrocodone during the process...........grrrr!
 
Yes, start with 7.5 or 10mg and don't drink on it.

Even if you did do a CWE to remove most (you can't remove all) of the APAP...drinking more than 1 or 2 drinks on opiates ruins the high anyway.
 
@TheLostBoys If there was a such thing as a hydrocontin, you wouldn't need to CWE it. Personally, Hydro never worked for me in doses under 30 mg (although i don't recommend using alcohol to potentiate).

As for doing a CWE, probably not necessary. It is better to take the APAP before the liver metabolises the alcohol, which it sounds like you would be doing. If I remember correctly hydro doesn't inhibit the same enzyme that processes it, so it might be a better idea to take a dose of 30 mg, then to take a booster dose 2 hours or so later and keep the high going. If you wait about 6 hours after taking the APAP then it shouldn't be too big of a deal if you drink afterwards- It's your liver on the line though.
 
why would you want to drink on vicodin...im just old fashioned i guess and like to get super high on one substance than combine them
 
budsnbars712 said:
Just posted in another thread about my horrible first time experience with Vicodin. I am also 120-125 pounds. I took 20 mg as I was un-experienced and did not know about this website or do my research. This was too high and started recieving heart palpitations after trying to wake up from nodding out. Not enjoyable. Too high of a dose. I would recommend 10-15mg tops.
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damn that's pretty scary... i mean i don't think 17.5 mg would be too much but from all the answers i've gotten, i'm just gonna take 10 mg orally and then take 7.5 more if it does nothing. and not ruin it by drinking. i'll just smoke a bowl i suppose. thanks for all the answers guys!
 
with opiates i like to smoke a nice bowl and maybe drink a beer or two , i wouldn't go out and pound down drinks though. just my 2 cents
 
i took 12.5 mg of hydrocodone for my first time a few days ago and it wasnt super strong but before i read id get fucked up on 15, does 2.5 mg really make that much of a difference??? it sucked and then id just get super naseous when id go outside and have a smoke. it was more of a burn then fun
 
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I started out taking 7.5's one at a time and redosing when necessary. That was until my tolerance is where it is now. Those were the good ol cheaper days. I have almost stopped drinkin altogether over the years due to it messing up my opiate high. The only one I slightly enjoyed mixing beer with was Demerol just when the peak was long gone and wanted a booster. Just my 2 cents though:)
 
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