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First time Heroin user, would like advice.

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manwithaplan

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Snorting it. Friend is telling me to do half a bag at first and see how I feel yet I've seen online that 1/4 at first is recommended. I really don't want to end up puking or not enjoying this. I've gone cold turkey off of opiates a 3 or so weeks ago so I'm willing to bet my tolerance is way down.
 
^ If you're not sure what your tolerance is but suspect it is "way down" then you want to be dosing as low as possible. I couldn't comment on how much of a bag to do - the heroin content (purity and also weight) varies hugely from place to place, so it's difficult to give you an accurate dosage suggestion, but if you are considering two options then definitely go for the lower dose. You can always wait for it to hit you then snort a bit more if you are sure it will be safe (make sure you wait long enough) but you can't subtract some if you take too much. As with snorting you consume the whole dose in one go, rather than over time (such as with chasing), you can't titrate it and the overdose risk is therefore higher.

Make sure you avoid any other CNS depressants too (eg benzos, alcohol) and take it with a friend rather than alone :)
 
effie said:
^ If you're not sure what your tolerance is but suspect it is "way down" then you want to be dosing as low as possible. I couldn't comment on how much of a bag to do - the heroin content (purity and also weight) varies hugely from place to place, so it's difficult to give you an accurate dosage suggestion, but if you are considering two options then definitely go for the lower dose. You can always wait for it to hit you then snort a bit more if you are sure it will be safe (make sure you wait long enough) but you can't subtract some if you take too much. As with snorting you consume the whole dose in one go, rather than over time (such as with chasing), you can't titrate it and the overdose risk is therefore higher.

Make sure you avoid any other CNS depressants too (eg benzos, alcohol) and take it with a friend rather than alone :)
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I guess I'll go with a lower dose. About interactions though, I took cyclobenzaprine last night to get to sleep am I alright? It's right about at the half life and I took 20mg.
 
gaktattack said:
I only see the above 2 posts... and frankly it isnt making sense.
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I was replying to the first post, which bit doesn't make sense? :)

manwithaplan said:
I guess I'll go with a lower dose. About interactions though, I took cyclobenzaprine last night to get to sleep am I alright? It's right about at the half life and I took 20mg.
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Definitely go with the lower dose. There will still be roughly half the dose of cyclobenzaprine in your system and yes this could affect it, I would wait longer TBH - not worth the risk especially if you're taking heroin with a low tolerance. Really, if your tolerance is that low, you want to take a tiny bit without any other depressant drugs in your system and see how it affects you before taking more.

Even if you are accustomed to heroin, it is wise to do this, as the strength of batches can vary wildly and you won't know how strong it is until you have taken it..

What other opioids have you used in the past? Progressing to heroin is a big step and not one to take lightly..
 
manwithaplan said:
I guess I'll go with a lower dose. About interactions though, I took cyclobenzaprine last night to get to sleep am I alright? It's right about at the half life and I took 20mg.
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With 1/4 point? I think you will be ok. Even though I had used opiates in the past, the first time I ever did smack all I did was a 1/4 point, and then another 1/4 about an hour later, and it really opened my eyes. She is a sweet lady.
 
^ See here bags are .2g usually which is why i find it difficult answering these sort of questions, not to mention the variation in purity that you can get..

With UK heroin we tend to chase it so it's easier to titrate as well.
 
The size of a 'bag' varies all over, as does purity, so I would suggest starting with a 1 inch razor-thin line, and going from there. It takes a little while for it to hit you, so I suggest waiting 30 minutes before doing more (or 20 mins if you aren't feeling anything), and continuing doing the 1 inch razor thin lines each time you dose. If you have gone through withdrawals before then you must have some sort of a tolerance, even if you haven't used in a while, so I don't see a problem in starting with tiny lines that are probably just a little bigger than match head sized bumps. What was your previous opioid tolerance?
 
depends on the purity and how much is in a bag? 200mg? with no tolerance a "common dose" administered IV according to erowid is 10mg... the highest average purity in big US cities like chicago is 60% pure... so approx 20mg IV would be safe in theory with no tolerance, so 35mg snorted IN THEORY would be a safe dose with no tolerance.... but it all depends on the purity which can vary so much... so start low like 25mg to test its purity, and redose accordingly i guess
 
Thanks for the replies. I did half a bag of some pure shit. Feeling pretty fucking good. It's been a half hour it seems to have peaked. It did right? I was thinking about doing some more.

Also I don't think the cyclo is a problem, my friend kept assuring me it wouldn't matter. May have just wanted for me to get high but whatever it's done. Don't think there will be any interactions based on how I feel now.
 
If it was pure shit half a bag would have you a lot higher. Anyway, usually I feel a bit speedy from heroin for the first hour, and then start nodding after that. It probably has peaked in terms of you knowing how that dose is going to effect you, and if you can do more.
 
Tommyboy said:
If it was pure shit half a bag would have you a lot higher. Anyway, usually I feel a bit speedy from heroin for the first hour, and then start nodding after that. It probably has peaked in terms of you knowing how that dose is going to effect you, and if you can do more.
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I used to have a pretty high tolerance so I'm pleasantly surprised I'm feeling as good as I am now. By the way, how can you tell if shit is cut? It's light brown so I assumed it wasn't cut with anything terrible.
 
It's all going to be cut, even if it's fresh off the boat usually. If they used cuts that are not soluble in water then you can tell by putting it in water, but I doubt you want to do that, and it wouldn't tell you anything if they used a cut that is water soluble.
 
Best thing to do is step away from the bitch before she runs ur shit if u can dig what im saying!
 
jones-in_J said:
+1 to this
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Agreed. SHE WILL FUCK YOU OVER. Especially when you start IV'ing it. & Don't give me that ''I'm not a needle-user & I hate needles/syringes.'' Trust me - I was the kid that was scared as fuck just having a phlebotomist take my blood as a medical center, I soon ended up being able to give myself shots without missing ANY in seconds.

Anyhow to answer your question - Start with UBER-TINY KEY BUMPS! We're talking like 1/6, 1/8th of the bag, wait 5 minutes after each mini-dose & then take another one. This is how I started out on tha' Ron & I'm still here to tell about it 5 years later. its a wasted blast of H on a dead guy anyhow. LOL
 
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