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Opioids First time heroin use, need the OG users advice.

DonStatus

DonStatus

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Hello everybody, I'm a daily oxycodone user of about 120mg and it takes me about 40mg one dose to feel anything. One of my dealer friends (they almost are all dealers, simply because we do what we do ;)) Sold me what he claims to be FIRE uncle Ron. Now, I'm not a needle person but he shot up in front of me ( quite something when you've never seen it IRL) and said it was good stuff. I don't want to hear DON'T DO IT or OH MY GOD YOU'LL RUIN YOUR LIFE, because quite frankly I got a fat sack of it and I want to try it. My main questions are: What is my best ROA bet? , should I smoke it or sniff? How much for a first time user? Bear in mind I use oxy a lot (daily). And final question and most important: If I had taken a dose of oxy during the morning is it safe to do some Ron with oxy in my system?? Thanks guys, I want to hear all your nitty gritty stories and any advise for losing my heroin virginity ;) . P.s is it even worth it if im not going to use needles (ever!)
 
Definitely sniff it. I wish I would have listened to that advice awhile ago...maybe avoiding or at least prolonging getting involved with the needle. It's already been said, but start out with small bumps to see where you're at to ultimately achieve where you want to be. Have fun.
 
Is it dangerous to have oxy already in my system? Should I be in full withdrawals before doing the H? Just wondering don't wanna die :p
 
Treat .1 of heroin as being like 120mg of oxycodone. It might feel like less if it's cut, but at least you will be on the safe side. Oh, and sniff it.
 
Yeah if your in North America and you got powder, your only real options are to sniff or inject. DEF sniff it. (No point to using IV yet and its something u should not do unless utterly unavoidable)

There's no "interaction" btwn Heroin and Oxy. It carries the same dangers as taking oxy and then taking some more oxy. In other words, its just an opiate + an opiate. The only concern is since u don't know the potency and how to guage ur dose with heroin, that dose of heroin u take with the oxy in ur system could be like taking 200mg of oxy (a fat line of heroin) instead of ur usual 40mgs if u follow.
But, taking heroin and oxy the same day Is not like a Benzo + Alcohol combo or a Benzo + Opiate combo---in those 2 situations, the effects of combining are more dangerous than the effects of each one individually. Kinda like oxy + heroin would be equal to 1 + 1 = 2 in math, whereas Benzo + Alcohol would be like 1 + 1 = 200 b/c of the synergy with the 2 drugs
So taking the H is just like redosing with more oxy, but since u can't really gauge how much heroin would be equal to a comfortable dose of oxy, play it safe and take small doses working ur way up. Doing too much H would be like taking too much oxy, not good..


The high is def worth it just sniffed...I used 1 gram+ / day of oxy (12-15 80mg oxy's per day) and snorted heroin gave me a more than sufficient high. The ONLY reason to shoot up as far as I'm concerned, is when you can no longer afford to sustain ur habit by snorting and so you have to shoot up to use more efficiently, but at that point u should revaluate.
Once u shoot up, nothing will ever feel as good, so why jump up ur tolerance b4 u have to? Its kinda like, if u could nod off of 20mg of oxy, would u do something that made it so u needed to take 80mgs to feel the same way? Hell no! So snort for as long as ur still enjoying it, and only when that's not working for u anymore then move on if u must.


Oh and smoke weed, I always appreciated H more after I smoked in the begining, its not as speedy as oxy is, so the weed helped me to appreciate the sedation of H when I started
 
Id say start wit half a bag of the H wait 20-30 mins and see how you feel. Then snort the other half if needed and continue like that to be safe. My tolerance is 70-80mg of oxy to get pretty high myself and i normally do 1-2 bags snorted of H pending on the potency. Most i have ever done of id say medium quality H at once was 2 bags then 20 mins later another 2 and it got me nodding pretty hard. I normally get pretty quality stuff down here in NYC as well and rather large bags as well.
I have been a on and off opiate addict for about 5 years now and never once went to the needle. I never plan to either i just cant see myself having to use a needle every time i want to get high its just so involved and time consuming versus dumping out a bag rolling a bill and snorting. Only good thing i can say right now with my usage is i haven't been fully addicted to opiates in the past 6 months i can use and stop for days and not suffer withdrawal anymore which is awesome. I been doing great only chipping like 1-2 times a week at most now. Sometimes going as much as 2 weeks in between uses as well. Which is great for me saying for a good 3 years i was nearly a every day user of Opana, roxi and most recently H due to opana being ruined in the way Oxy went. I wish they didn't change the formula of Opana though cause that was my favorite opiate.
Anyways sorry for getting off topic but my last words is start low and work your way up since you never know the potency of H from one bag to the next unlike Pharmaceuticals where you know your exact dosage that your ingesting. Have fun and be safe.
 
Yeah agreed to above poster...

When I first tried heroin, I would nod from snorting one 80mg oxy (the original OC's) and would dose 2-4 times a day. So that was my tolerance and I snorted half a bag of H my first time. (A standard NYC stamp bag)...,now, I didn't get high at alll really, I felt something but barely and was kinda disapointed but pissed is better than OD..

So the next time I did a full bag and actually got high...I waited exactly an hour (I've always been very scientiffic w/ my drugs and u always remember ur first ;) )and then snorted another half bag, smoked some weed, and I was good and noddy

My point is, u may be surprised either in a good or bad way when u first try it, but u don't want to be surprised b/c ur in a hospital when u come to. So dose small and carefully at first uintil u find ur sweet spot, u will only need 1-2 bags MAX snorted to get high, and since its not too expensive, especially compared to oxy, u can afford to "waste" a couple of bags by snorting half at a time in order to find ur appropriate dose.
 
You see guys? This is why I FUCKING LOVE this site, so informative and always ready and willing to help out :) .

So basically I still got my bag right here, I want to wait till tomorrow night because it'll be friday night.
On monday I'm starting suboxone therapy for my oxy addiction so as of Sunday morning I can't take any opiates at all and need to be in withdrawals.
So I plan to go all out on Friday night and saturday, just to finally try H before I kick everything for good (hopefully).
Going to take my usual doses of oxy friday and sniff H friday night. Just to at least have some powerful opiate fun before it gets ripped out of my receptors :P

Thanks again boys! I'll post here to let you guys know how it went!! Woohoo Can't Wait!! :) :) :) ;)
 
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