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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

First time heroin: tar stuck to wrapper and amount to use

anxiousMoFo

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Many questions:

Dabbled with Vicodin, Norco's benzos starting ~5 months ago. Used Oxycontin every other week to 3x week over a period of a 4-7 weeks. Last time used was 5 days ago 80 mg OC: 40mg oral, 40mg snorted. Nodded hard, got high, but had my act together. Never used H before. I'm planning on vaporizing it on foil. Instead of the H on a flat piece of foil, it's like a foil "ball" as if you wrapped a crushed pill to parachute it. The tar is sticky but hardened, with foil stuck tightly all over! I'm gonna try using tweezers and paper clips for now.

First time quantity tips? I have 3 200mg of these balls. I was considering using .1g or .2g first time smoked. Or thinking about waiting a few days and IV'ing .1g or .05g and work my way up doing slightly higher doses to find a starting point for IV.

I only have one syringe. Would it be recommended for me to pay a visit to a needle exchange for syringes, filters and whatever I come up on?
 
DO NOT IV .1 THE FIRST TIME

that sucks about being stuck to the foil, i got one like that for the first time a few days ago and it was such a bitch, idk why they didnt put plastic in the middle like always. I found it was impossible to pick the foil off without losing a ton of tar, so what i ended up doing was pinching a bowl off and hitting it, then when the tar was still liquid using a tack to lift the foil out. You shouldnt need to smoke more than .1 to feel it with your tolerance unless the tars pretty weak.
 
Foil still stuck

The guy that hooked me up is not a complete stranger, but I tend to not believe street advice on opiates. For example, guy told me it's good shit. He's a more experienced user and said he puke a few times and he was / looked high as fuck 5 hours after his shot. But for all I know he could be full of shit so who knows how good this is until I try it. So maybe I should do a quarter of that .2g wrapper, so .05g? I'm eager to try, but trying to to be cautious at the same time. Also, keep in mind I have a mild cross tolerance to opiates, being that I did 80mg less than a week ago. I'm pretty sure that's not a low dose.

Back to the original problem, the foil idea would have worked if it was two flat pieces of foil pressing the tar down, but its so tightlu wrapped around it that it's so frustrasting to take that shit off. Would it be safe to prep the tar with some leftover foil then eliminate it when I filter it / draw it into the syringe?
 
I would think a cotton would filter it out.
The idea of shooting aluminum foil into your veins in a disturbingly painful thought....
 
Since this is primarily about dosing, I'm going to send it over to BDD. Feel free to send it back if you disagree about placement, BDD mods.

I second starting at .05grams (or 25% of the .2 ball). Especially with smoking, its really easy to titrate up, so if 50mg is insufficient, then do a little more. Its a good idea to start with smoking and assume IVing will be roughly twice as strong, so just be thoughtful with your doses.
 
not shooting foil

I would think a cotton would filter it out.
The idea of shooting aluminum foil into your veins in a disturbingly painful thought....

I'm highly considering swinging by an exchange in a couple of days to pick up filters, rigs, whatnot... but even if I just use cotton, shouldn't the filtering process eliminate the foil too? I doubt the foil pieces will get sucked up by the syringe.

Also, moderator, I threw in the dosage and ROA question just because it goes with the same topic, but my main question is getting the tar out of foil. Should I have started two separate threads, one addressing dosage and one addressing the foil issue?
 
No, you are good... at this point the thread is out of my jurisdiction so if the BDD mods feel this is more suited for OD they can toss it back. You didn't do anything wrong OP, I just thought it might be more appropriate for BDD. There is a a lot of gray area between what is best in BDD and what is best in OD since they cover such similar material.
 
Just had an idea: what I threw the gunky tar and foil in the fridge or freezer? Would that make the tar less sticky therefore making it easier to peel the foil off?
 
don't shoot tar at all man. it's the worst thing to put into your veins. if you are gonna do it though, please UTFSE and get some harm reduction methods. kay? this better make me a bluelighter.
 
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