Opioids First time H user

[hdth]

So recently I had a crazy idea to try heroin and I figured i would IV it to get the most out of it. Iv got a source where many people claim its uncut 100% pure H. I am buying a sample size from the guy tomorrow which will be .1g of H(black tar) give or take a few. Im using a vein in my hand to inject it into. Lets say the guy gives me .15g of H, will this be enough to OD on with low opiate tolerance (about 20-30g of hydrocodone up from 15). I wants to feel nice but doesnt want to feel dead just yet and im afraid if i do half injection then half later I would be to high to inject the rest and shoot it in my muscle or hit an artery or other complications with IV. Also will my hand swell up even if I didn't cook it?

 

[rhun]

First off, we don't use SWIM on this site. You need to edit your post and replace SWIM with "I" before a mod does. We know it's you and SWIM won't help protect you anyways.

If you've only got a small hydrocodone habit I cannot in good conscience help you to do H. And no one doing H for their first time should be IVing it. You have a low opiate tolerance.. enjoy it. Don't fuck that up by doing H. Tar is filthy, IVing it will ruin your veins even if you knew how. And it will also ruin your life. I wish I had stopped back when I was still doing 80mg of Oxy a day, which is like 10x worse than your current habit.

Sorry, we strongly promote harm reduction here.. so I just can't tell you that's a good idea or suggest ways that enable you too. Why do you think this is a good idea?
Also, H is very underwhelming anyway. It's not even a great high in my experience. However, because it's short lasting and typically IVed, you results in strong cravings and is extremely addicting. No one casually IVs, by doing so you are going out and buying yourself a hardcore addiction, and one of the nastiest ones out there too. I would know.

 

[Tommyboy]

It's pointless and very dangerous for you to try IV heroin. Most people try it because their tolerances to prescription opiates has gotten very high. That is not the case with you since you are still getting high from 20mg of hydrocodone.

Heroin feels very similar to hydrocodone, so I wouldn't risk ODing to get the same high you are getting anyway. I probably couldn't even tell the difference between heroin and hydrocodone if given a blind sample of each, but since my tolerance to hydrocodone got so high I switched to heroin and I do enough to get the same high I used to get from hydrocodone.

If you try heroin you need to have someone with you in case you OD. Also, the stuff you are getting is not 100% pure. If that was the case it would be a white powder, not black tar.

 

[puredmt]

It's imposible to get pure uncut anything you cant get much higher than 98% especially when it comes to heroin, and if its black tar its not that pure. If you've never tried this source before I would recommend using a different route than IV'ing because who knows if its really even heroin what if they gave you something fake and you injected it? that could cause serious damage to your body.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

Most street heroin is like 5%-50% pure, no way is it 100% pure and especially not if it is tar heroin. Seriously DO NOT do this, heroin is so not worth it. This is a terrible idea, there is no reason to risk your life and risk serious addiction.

But if you are going to be stupid and do it anyway, I'd rather you not die, so:

Yes 0.1g could potentially be enough to overdose from. I have seen people OD from injecting 0.1g. We can't tell you a safe dose, since potency varies SO much plus everyone's different, so all you can do is start very very low, like seriously start with 0.01g-0.02g or something the very first time. Then you can better gauge where to go from there. When I had your (extremely low) level of opioid tolerance I could get really high from just 0.02g, but who knows how the potency of whatever dope you are planning on getting compares to what I had. It could be way weaker or it could be even stronger.

If you start with a small amount and are so high you're worried you may not be able to properly inject more, then do not inject more! If you are so high you can't inject properly you shouldn't be doing more heroin anyway! If you feel nothing at all from the first shot you know you can do a bit more the next time, you should generally only have to wait like 15min before deciding whether or not you need more (assuming you didn't miss or something and aren't taking any other drugs). It is imperative to always start with a very low dose whenever injecting heroin for the first time, whenever doing it after a period of not using, or whenever you get a new batch (even from the same dealer).

If you're thinking of injecting heroin, do a ton of research first on proper injection technique, the risks and complications (for example tar heroin destroys your veins), and read stories from addicts about how horrible addiction is and do not for a minute kid yourself and think you're special and will be able to avoid addiction, and then think long and hard about this decision.

ETA: Also what do you mean about your hand swelling up? Why were you planning on injecting into your hand? That is not a good idea. You should not have significant swelling, that is a sign that something is wrong, although many people do get a histamine reaction which can cause hives or some very light swelling. It has nothing to do with whether or not you heat the dope. You seriously need to research proper injection before even considering this.