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Heroin First time going through full blown Heroin withdrawal

Subs help with the twitches,sweats,and cramps. One thing I had and issue with for over three months after bein clean without subs. Was using dreams....hourly at first. Then daily. But even 3 months later I would wake up in full withdrawal,at random. Herion withdrawal can last months staying completely sober.
 
Welp I took the 2mg bar, and it took about an hour and worked great, my withdrawal is substantially lower, I feel hungry and drowsy enough to sleep /eat, I think grabbing these 5 bars was a godsend, I know the H withdrawal is dam near gone, just the small amount of bupe left which was only one 8mg film broke into 5 pieces over 5 days, I'm guessing my remaining 4 2mg Zan's will take me through the remainder of the H/ Sub withdrawal.. I think I did this right in the end.. Just really hope the 10 mg of zannys aint enough to cause withdrawal? Because I feel I'm almost out the cycle.. What y'all think?
 
aesthetics13 said:
Welp I took the 2mg bar, and it took about an hour and worked great, my withdrawal is substantially lower, I feel hungry and drowsy enough to sleep /eat, I think grabbing these 5 bars was a godsend, I know the H withdrawal is dam near gone, just the small amount of bupe left which was only one 8mg film broke into 5 pieces over 5 days, I'm guessing my remaining 4 2mg Zan's will take me through the remainder of the H/ Sub withdrawal.. I think I did this right in the end.. Just really hope the 10 mg of zannys aint enough to cause withdrawal? Because I feel I'm almost out the cycle.. What y'all think?
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Its gonna take 5 days roughly from when the bupe stopped working till you feel basically better. Then youll have a pink cloud period where everything is wonderful and shit. Then about a month in PAWS hit and the depression that comes with it. This shit is a marathon don't run it like a sprint.
 
aesthetics13 said:
Wow... I never thought a couple months of doing a couple packs of H a day, and using a single 8mg Sub to get off it, would come with this many strings attached, everyone told me just take one sub and it will take you through the H withdrawal, then you'll be good. I feel bad for the poor souls that have used H for years then are on subs for years trying to get off if such a light user like myself has to go through this duration to get clean. I have a 48hr a week, 12hr shift job, so I cant do no programs. If I just traded one week of hell for a longer duration of feeling shitty, so be it. Today I'm feeling just a minor headache, muscles soreness, slight anxiety and minor depression, I'll keep everyone updated on my progress..
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The main difference between a recreational user and an addict is that the recreational user recognizes when their use starts to adversely affect their life and is able to stop. I hope that's the case for you and you're right about being able to push through. Since you've never experienced PAWS and how intense craving can be after becoming physically dependent, I just wanted you to know what you're in for so you (unlike most in this situation) can be prepared.

Here is an excellent thread on the topic.

To answer your other question, 5 consecutive days of administering 2mg alprazolam won't produce physical dependence unless you have previously been physically dependent on benzos and even then, it's unlikely to be anything more than a slight amount of restlessness and insomnia which will likely be there anyway for a bit after most of the withdrawal has ceased.
 
Able to stop is the key part. At first I thought you differentiated behtween the two by a recreational user being able to recognize when their use is having negative consequences. I realized that very early on. Now if only I had been able to stop I would be in that recreational category!
 
I have been through a a lot, alcohol withdrawal being the worst.. But I also was fed a bad mix of pma and piperazine, and I barely survived that, so that was my worst expirence no doubt. I will be ok y'all, a couple months use of H and 5 day's on sub, now a few days on zan's ain't going to faze me, I know what my body needs to get through certain withdrawals, and in this case this is what I need to do. To each their own....
 
Alright guys I'm almost there, I learned a HUGE life lesson from this. Working these 12hr shifts going through this withdrawal was hell and I will NEVER get myself in that boat again...

Here's my question I know I'm good on the H thus it's been almost 2 weeks, but my last 1mg of sub was exactly 117hrs ago. And like I said I used one single film in 5 days at Day1: 2mg Day 2: 2mg Day 3 :2mg Day4: 1mg Day 5: 1mg. The withdrawal hit HARD on the 4th day off the sub, but I am feeling better now. Got a small batch of 2 mg xanax 5 of them to be exact, they wouldn't knock me out on there own but with 4-5 drinks a night they been knockin me right out for the last few nights. I kinda got a hangover from the drinks and xanax last night but I'm not feeling opiate related withdrawal right now.. Am I in the clear, finally? And is this bupe finally out my system?
 
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