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First time DMT preparation...Help much appreciated

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microwave55

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Hey guys,

I have some DMT in my possession for the first time and am very eager to try it, but also don't want to waste what I have. I've been doing tons of research and realize this thread may be slightly redundant, but I have a few questions that I have not been able to find specific answers to.

Anyhow, from what I gathered the "sandwich" method is perfectly acceptable if done correctly. I hope to have a breakthrough experience, and as such I was planning on loading a normal weed pipe as follows - Layer of tobacco ash -> 50mg of spice -> more tobacco ash. Now, with this combination in mind, I am to not directly light even the top layer, correct? Is it comparable to lighting a bowl of hash, wherein one merely holds the lighter close to the substance, without directly touching it? Or am I to actually slightly burn the top layer? I've also been told from the person I received the stuff from to place some tin foil in the bowl with a hole pricked through, followed by a small ball of foil and then the spice on top.

Which of these two methods would I be better off doing, to ensure I do not waste any of the spice and to hopefully breakthrough?

EDIT: Another quick question came to mind - I recently had an MDMA experience (couple days ago)...will this be a problem with regards to the DMT (i.e should I hold off and wait for my receptors to at least partially recover, or can I jump right in?

Any help is appreciated, thanks in advance.
 
I would start lower than +50mg of DMT if I were you.. I had an intense breakthrough on 35-40mg the first time and I'm generally a hardhead to psychedelics.
But the "sandwich" method works and yes you do not wan't to touch the top layer with the flame.

Your recent MDMA experience shouldn't be a problem IMO
 
Appreciate the comments, guys. I think I'll go with the sandwich method just because I already have all of the materials on hand, and I believe I am experienced enough with heating materials in a bowl to make it work. The reason I want to go with 50mg, too, is that my DMT is yellowish in color - if I'm not mistaken, doesn't that mean it is not exactly the purest material?

Another question that just popped into my mind, too - is DMT water soluble at all, or is it fine to use a bubbler/bong with water in it?
 
Yellow is plenty pure...white seems largley cosmetic to me..no real difference.

I'd start with 25 mg's to start..peoples sensitivity varys greatly to this (and other) stuff. Stuff ramps up very quickly!

I prefer under 30mg's over and I get post-trip amnesia (what's the point) under and I soak-in and appreciate the visuals (which is largley what dmt is all about) over and I just feel over-whelmed and retain nothing of the experience. Of course, YMMV...but I'd start out lower..till you know how you react.

Sandwiched between ash works fine..my second favorite way to do it after a 2oz hennessy bottle, hole nail punched in the bottom, chore-boy wad stuffed into the top. "The Machine" it's called (don't know why..no moving parts) Do a search on it sometime if you'd like to try the most popular method...allows break-throughs in one big huff!
 
microwave55 said:
Appreciate the comments, guys. I think I'll go with the sandwich method just because I already have all of the materials on hand, and I believe I am experienced enough with heating materials in a bowl to make it work. The reason I want to go with 50mg, too, is that my DMT is yellowish in color - if I'm not mistaken, doesn't that mean it is not exactly the purest material?
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Not necessarily. A very small amount of adulterant can effectively change color. Yellow product usually indicates that the other active alkaloids contained within the root bark have been extracted as well. You can read some info here.
Another question that just popped into my mind, too - is DMT water soluble at all, or is it fine to use a bubbler/bong with water in it?
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Perhaps slightly in running water, (performed rinses many times with cold water and/or ammonia with yield weighed before and after) but it's not noticeable through a water pipe.
 
First let me start with dmt is an amazing compound. It will open a door that will show you a world that nothing can prepare you for.

50mg is a decent dose you migh be able to have a full break through experience. The fact it is yellow is not a big deal. Though color is a sign of impurities color would be but a small percentage of the material. Think about how little color it takes to turn a glass red.

Your smoking plan sounds good enough. You can smoke it out of a bowl, but a bong is probably your best bet. Dmt freebase is not soluble in water so you won't lose any in the water. My heaviest break throughs came from bongs as you can take the biggest hit in one go and all you gotta do is hold it in.

What is most important is that you do not torch the dmt. If you apply direct flame it will light on fire and burn.

Good luck and Godspeed.
 
Wanted to update you guys - Ended up trying it today...Didn't breakthrough as I ended up fucking up and cherrying the bowl a bit. Definitely had an intense trip with the craziest visuals I've ever seen, and even felt/saw a slight presence in the right and left of my peripherals.

I'm kind of glad I didn't end up breaking through as I feel I'm more prepared to the next time now. I have a few new questions though...How much material should be on the top layer of the sandwich? It seems as though I put too much because at first I was not getting anything at all, then I moved the lighter a bit closer and though it did not catch on fire, the bowl was definitely cherried by my 3rd and 4th hits. For reference, I put some tobacco at the bottom, then the spice, then some tobacco ash (about 3/4ths a cigarette worth).

My other question is - should my setting be dark or light? I had my eyes closed most of the trip and was experience insane visuals, so I'm guessing either will work.

Thanks in advance everyone.
 
If you break through whether the room is light or dark might play a small role bu when your in hyperspace you don't actual exist here. Also a sub break through dose will in no way prepare you for the real thing.

You may want to look into and consider using a light bulb or look into buying a meth pipe. I never did the sandwich thing but I also had a lot to work with.

Good luck and safe travels.
 
by my 3rd and 4th hits
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if you took several hits, that means you breathed out, and rather quickly too since you did 4 times before the dmt hit, which is only a question of seconds

you need to keep the smoke in as long as you can so that it has the time to be absorbed

ideally, you should only take one huge puff and hold it

it's not easy

50mg may be a bit low if you think you will either cough, lose some material or have to exhale several times

about the sandwich, it's important for the flame not to touch the dmt
you can practice without the crystals to check how far from the pipe you need to keep the lighter for the flame to be very close to the material without burning it

should my setting be dark or light?
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during a breakthrough, you won't know if it's dark or light
 
you should definitely use a bit of metal scouring pad or ''choreboy'' and put it in the cone of a bong. you don't need water as the smoke shouldn't be too hot if vaporised properly. you should heat the cone of the bong from underneath as this exposes the dmt to much less heat than a direct flame.

also--very important--you need to take it all in one big hit and hold it rather than taking multiple hits over a few seconds.
tolerance to dmt builds in seconds so anything after a first hit won't work as well at all. just fucking proper hit it like a bitch and you should be in outer space.

i like to have just a few candles or a small lamp in a dark room whilst doing dmt. or a fire if i'm outside! it won't make a difference if you totally break through but i think it helps relax me before the trip and as i'm coming down.
 
Another update if anyone cares to read haha - smoked another 50mg but out of a oil burner (meth) pipe this time, and completely broke through. Definitely the most insane experience of my life - very difficult to put into words, if not indescribable. I unfortunately don't remember some of it, too, which I guess is normal for a lot of people.
 
I've never been able to breakthrough smoking it. Oral is the only way to go for me.
 
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