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Opioids First time codeine dose?

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Raven SWE

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In the near future I'm planning on doing a cold water extraction on some co-codamol pills (8mg codeine, 500mg paracetamol, no additives).
I've never done any opiates before, the only downers I've done AFAIK are:
Weed (pretty much every day)
Ketamine
Valium (70mg in a day is too much)
Alcohol

What can I expect and what kind of dose should I be going for? 32 pills = 256mg codeine so realistically maybe I'd get 200mg out of a pack? Will that be enough to have a "good time"?

Thanks a bunch
 
Hmmmm, first time codeine maybe 100mg, never more than 200 on your first time with no tolerance or you'll be itching yourself silly.
 
Raven SWE said:
In the near future I'm planning on doing a cold water extraction on some co-codamol pills (8mg codeine, 500mg paracetamol, no additives).
I've never done any opiates before, the only downers I've done AFAIK are:
Weed (pretty much every day)
Ketamine
Valium (70mg in a day is too much)




Alcohol

What can I expect and what kind of dose should I be going for? 32 pills = 256mg codeine so realistically maybe I'd get 200mg out of a pack? Will that be enough to have a "good time"?

Thanks a bunch
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The sweet spot for a codeine first timer is generally around ~140-160mg..
take an antihistamine ahead of time! please believe me on this! otherwise expect a stimulating opiate with lots of itchiness going on!

~token
 
My first time I just went ahead and used a whole packet of panefen plus (384mg) , if u do the extraction properly u should get close to 250mg , that was actually the first proper opiate I touched , I would definetly say u need atleast 200mg to get the real desired affects , 100mg is just so weak and will basically just give u a taste , maybe not even . If u have any weed/are a weed smoker , wait 30 mind after dosing and smoke 1-3 bongs , not only does it help with the nausea but synergies with codeine so well that I'm not doing codeine again till I start smoking weed again haha , I did some codeine yesterday and it's definetly not even half as good without weed .

Codeine does have the worst histamine reaction of all opiates though . I've never 'needed' an antihistamines , sometimes I get a way worse histamine reaction than other times , just means abit more scratching lol , which can be annoying but pleasant . If ur worried about the histamine reaction by the way it was over exaggerated in the post above , have some antihistamines on hand , I recommend Restavit (doxylamine) or Benadryl (I forget) , they both potentiate codeine as well , so if u take them before/with ur CWE , Ull get less itches / less nausea I think ? And more sedation . Forgot to mention phenergan (promethazine) which is also a mild antipsychotic . I would recommend the codeine without the antihistamines at first though . Have fun and be safe .
 
excuse me? it was not over exaggerated!
And i stuck up for you in the cannabis thread...but forget that....
This isn't harm reduction what you're telling the op...
i have enough experience that i have no need to exaggerate anything..
and if i don't have the experience i keep my mouth shut!
You know how many ppl read these threads but never post ever?
You're telling all of them that 100mg. of codeine is weak.
This isn't true..for some it could be more than plenty.

Agreed it goes better with a bowl though...but so does life.

~token
 
My first time codeine I took about 230 mg and it was awesome. Be sure to take an anti-histamine before though :)
I was nodding very strongly though so best take less if you want to avoid that.
 
PeacePipeChief said:
Sorry token didn't mean to come across that way :/ spose I was just speaking through personal experience there . I can come across ignorant sometimes but I assure u its unintentional .
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PPC---There's no worries about this..I'm just gonnna stick up for myself because I'm the only one who does!
I knew it was personal experience..but i also know that the histamine release for most peeps on codeine can be completely annoying.
By the end of many days I'm sure I come across as ignorant ... sometimes I start first thing in the morning!
But we should just remember...there's a hell of a lot of people out there who act ignorant completely intentionally..so you and I are still winning.
;) token
 
I'll probably try 20 pills for a first dose, and I'll make sure to get an antihistamine. Is there anything I should know about the codeine buzz? Like with weed you can get paranoia, with mdma I sometimes trip out a bit and often vomit, but I've learnt to get myself out of negative mind states quite effectively. So I'm not afraid of new things, but I want to know as much as possible beforehand :)
 
Raven...the only other thing i can think of is that for me codeine and dhc also are very stimulating, so with the right dose comes lots of energy to get what i want to get happily done!
watch out for hives, trouble breathing..any swelling just in case you're allergic..it happens...sometimes,
besides that..take it easy and try to enjoy yourself.
I'm sure there's other things..but google and you can pretty much figure out what to expect! i think I need to google how to get out of negative states effectively..but knowing me..i'd probably f up the whole process!
Have fun, be careful!

:) token
 
exactly, I agree people on bluelight tend to get carried away with their harm reduction.

If its your first time you should so something from 150mg-250mg depending on what ur after. Any less is silly.
 
some people metabolize codeine better than others, when i had no opiate tolerance i remember feeling rather high on 80-100mg and wondering why i felt so great, then i remembered i took codeine but i couldn't believe it actually made me feel that nice. Something to watch out for is the nausea, for your first time you could feel a bit sick if you take too much.
 
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