first psychedelic experience, got a few questions

[ASquishyApple]

so i had my first psychedelic experience (excluding mdma) with 4-aco-dmt the other night and i have a few questions.

is it common to get somewhat nauseous on psychedelics or is that more dependent on the substance and stomach contents?

also is it normal to have your memory kind of out of whack the day after tripping? its back to normal now but the day after it wasn't so great for instance i remembered going into another room in my house a little while before but could not remember why and started to wonder if i really had even gone in there at all.

i've read about people saying with some substances they can definitely tell that they tripped the day before what does that mean is there some kind of mild hangover type feeling other than an afterglow? the day after my trip i felt slightly out of it. it wasn't anything like an alcohol hangover and maybe similar to an incredibly light mdma hangover without the emotional downs (just that feeling of not wanting to really do much). i guess i'd compare it to what i feel like after a night of staying up late and getting really baked after not smoking in a long time.


btw i posted this in the first time tripper thread but didn't get any responses sorry if i'm in the wrong making a new thread for this

 

[Feste]

is it common to get somewhat nauseous on psychedelics or is that more dependent on the substance and stomach contents?

also is it normal to have your memory kind of out of whack the day after tripping? its back to normal now but the day after it wasn't so great for instance i remembered going into another room in my house a little while before but could not remember why and started to wonder if i really had even gone in there at all.

Both sound pretty normal to me.

Hope you had a fun first go.

 

[stormyweathers]

ive never gotten anyhangover from 4-aco-dmt

how much did you take?

were you dehydrated?

did you get enough sleep?

 

[solistus]

As for nausea: some people argue that the subjective effects themselves can trigger nausea simply by being intense and disorienting. There are certainly some compounds that are much more likely to produce nausea in most people than others. I've never tried 4-aco-dmt but mushrooms themselves are certainly known to cause nausea for many people, although this is at least partially due to the fact that one usually has to ingest a bunch of mushrooms that most people find fairly revolting. Some degree of bodyload, which often includes minor to moderate nausea and sometimes actual vomiting, is common to most psychedelics. It varies by person, substance, and yes, the contents of your stomach (a lot of people either fast/skip meals before a trip or make an effort to eat healthier than usual before/during/after the trip to reduce these issues, but fasting can backfire if you find yourself hungry but not in a position to make/get food).

It's common to feel somewhat burned out for a day or two after tripping, yes. Some people feel generally lazy/lethargic, some tend to space out, some get almost manic while processing the events of the trip. So long as it's nothing serious enough to be a danger and it doesn't persist more than a day or two after dosing, I wouldn't think anything of it. This is hardly scientific but in my experience, it takes two nights' sleep to more or less 'fully recover' from a trip, at least for me. I'm almost never back to baseline before sleeping off any long-lasting psychedelic (not counting salvia, etc.), and I usually feel notably altered for another full day as well, especially with higher dose trips. Sometimes that just manifests as a pleasant afterglow; others, it's more like feeling burned out after a day of heavy pot smoking. Sounds like it was nothing severe or worrisome, just after-effects of playing with your brain's serotonin system the previous night

 

[ASquishyApple]

thanks for the replies. i feel more at ease with it now.

ive never gotten anyhangover from 4-aco-dmt

how much did you take?

were you dehydrated?

did you get enough sleep?

i took around 10mg. (kinda hard to be exact with such small amounts)
i don't think i was dehydrated i drank several glasses of water during the trip to the point i found myself urinating frequently although it seemed similar to how it is with x when i drink water combined with the elevated body temp. i probably did not get enough sleep though so i suspect that was the main cause. it took me much longer than i expected to get to sleep (i found it more difficult to get to sleep than after taking x) and didn't sleep in enough to compensate.

Hope you had a fun first go.

oh yes i enjoyed it very much. i felt very anxious/nervous from the time i took it up until i started to actually come up when the feeling turned into a weird sort of uncontrollable shaking/vibration/shivering throughout my body. once i got into the trip this went away and i really enjoyed myself. i was surprised at how lazy this substance was. i ended up watching cartoons about 2 hrs into it and even though i wanted to turn the tv off and listen to my ipod or even go find something to eat i could not get myself to move. i ended up spending the rest of the trip laying on my bed watching cartoons or just laying there with my eyes closed. which wasn't too bad as i found the cartoons to be incredibly entertaining. i found that i felt uncomfortable laying there alone in the dark so i had to leave my tv on. i've only felt this way before while stoned and only when in my room at my parent's house, which is where i tripped. (i never got this feeling last year at college when stoned even in the same situation just different place.) i did feel like i kind of wasted the trip and was a bit disappointed but it was a good first experience to get my feet wet and hopefully i can overcome the laziness in the future.

i do look forward to further experiencing this substance especially at higher doses. i really saw the potential it has to go deeper and i really liked how gentle it was and how it gave me the choice to go deep or just enjoy the high and visuals. i'll be trying it again this weekend with a couple friends at one of their places maybe at a higher dose but this experience should be all around better.

 

[RhythmSpring]

i was surprised at how lazy this substance was.

You may want to rephrase that.

 

[any major dude]

so i had my first psychedelic experience (excluding mdma)
is it common to get somewhat nauseous on psychedelics or is that more dependent on the substance and stomach contents?

yes and yes. PEA's don't really bother my stomach, but tryptamines do... some people are the opposite. And whatever's already in your stomach can definitely factor in as well.

also is it normal to have your memory kind of out of whack the day after tripping? its back to normal now but the day after it wasn't so great for instance i remembered going into another room in my house a little while before but could not remember why and started to wonder if i really had even gone in there at all.

not all that abnormal. Did you smoke pot while tripping? Often times if i've got some laying around I'll smoke substantially more than normal b/c i don't really feel the effects. The next day i'll feel a bit like i over-indulged in some space brownies or somesuch, often resulting in the "Why did i come in here?" thought upon entering a room... ha

i've read about people saying with some substances they can definitely tell that they tripped the day before what does that mean is there some kind of mild hangover type feeling other than an afterglow? the day after my trip i felt slightly out of it. it wasn't anything like an alcohol hangover and maybe similar to an incredibly light mdma hangover without the emotional downs (just that feeling of not wanting to really do much). i guess i'd compare it to what i feel like after a night of staying up late and getting really baked after not smoking in a long time.

also not terribly uncommon at all. I call this "brain mush," and it usually clears up, for me, 12-36hrs after i come down, depending on the substance. Glad you enjoyed your first psychedelic experience.

 

[Pyramedic]

You may want to rephrase that.

IMO the OP's speaking the truth: Last time on high dose of 4-AcO-DMT (around 30mg) I just played video games and read Donald Duck comics.. Yawning a lot.

But yes, 4-AcO-DMT is gentle. I wouldn't be concerned with any aftereffects the next day, it's quite common that memory and thoughts play a few jestful tricks after any psychoactive substance.

It's also one of the drugs that makes me a bit worn out or tired the next day, nothing overly big; I still have felt refreshed mentally, just bored/tired.

 

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