First Cycle.

yellowbarbeach

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Hey Bluelighters, about a month ago I decided, after playing with the idea for years, that I would run a cycle. I am well versed in several forums "First Cycle" stickies but I still have a question or two before I begin injecting. First off let me introduce myself. I am 23 years old, 200 lbs, 10-15% bf, lifting since I was 18.

My question is about PCT of a basic 250 mg Test E E3D cycle ran for 10 weeks. This is the only place that I have been to that does not suggest a full PCT this kind of cycle. I have search the forum for anecdotal evidence and have not found much. I have searched the forum for scientific evidence and not found that either. lol I would love to avoid PCT, the side effects of the most used serms are off-putting.

I have read other places that 250mg Test E is enough to shutdown natural production of Test E. Is this true?

Thanks,
yellowhat
 
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Hey Bluelighters, about a month ago I decided, after playing with the idea for years, that I would run a cycle. I am well versed in several forums "First Cycle" stickies but I still have a question or two before I begin injecting. First off let me introduce myself. I am 23 years old, 200 lbs, 10-15% bf, lifting since I was 18.

My question is about PCT of a basic 250 mg Test E EOD cycle ran for 10 weeks. This is the only place that I have been to that does not suggest a full PCT this kind of cycle. I have search the forum for anecdotal evidence and have not found much. I have searched the forum for scientific evidence and not found that either. lol I would love to avoid PCT, the side effects of the most used serms are off-putting.

I have read other places that 250mg Test E is enough to shutdown natural production of Test E. Is this true?

Thanks,
yellowhat
How tall are you? 250mg is too low and 10 weeks of Enanthate is too short. Any amount of exogenous androgens will stunt endogenous production to a certain degree; in a dose and compound dependent manner.

Do some reading about steroids on forums that aren't this one. This place only has like 3 people that actually know what they're talking about when it comes to anything hormone or diet related. I've gotta question your resourcefulness if you really didn't bother looking at places like PubMed or even steroids.com
 
250 mg E3D is 500mg of Test E Per week and is at the high end of a starting cycle. Did you think I said 250 per week? As I said in my post I have visited other forums most of which repeat the same things. I have also utilized google scholar and as well as sci hub to access scientific literature. Primary source >>>>> Pub Med/steroids.com.... Please do not condensed. Lol

Also I posted my question on this forum because the sickie presents ideas that go against the grain and I am interested in they are founded. Many doctors frown on the use of nova/clomid.

I am 6'

Thanks for trying to answer my questions I guess....
 
My question is about PCT of a basic 250 mg Test E E3D cycle ran for 10 weeks. This is the only place that I have been to that does not suggest a full PCT this kind of cycle. I have search the forum for anecdotal evidence and have not found much. I have searched the forum for scientific evidence and not found that either. lol I would love to avoid PCT, the side effects of the most used serms are off-putting.

I have read other places that 250mg Test E is enough to shutdown natural production of Test. Is this true?

Thanks,
yellowhat

There are other forums where a simple taper off is recommended for a basic testosterone only cycle..

Ask 100 people about how best to PCT and the likelihood is you may get 100 different answers, it's a controversial subject..

However here we try and promote minimal polypharmacy for maximum therapeutic effects, AI's and SERM's may have a place on an extended cycle inclusive of multiple, highly suppressive compounds such as nandrolone, but for test only @ 10 weeks, I think not..!!

There is a possibility natural production may be suppressed, but as HPTA detects lowering exogenous testosterone post cycle it will restart natural production in due course.. You can assist in this process by tapering off, plus adding low dose AI to lower estrogen in the last few weeks, combined with taurine 3-4g/day...
 
Just finished my second cycle of T400. 500mg 1x per week for 10 weeks. 10 days after my last injection (Sunday night) I will start Clomid 50mg 3x's day for 1 week, 2x's per day at 1 week and then 1x per day for 2 weeks.

I did this before last year. I did 800mg per week (my first cycle too) which was the only difference. Got back to normal after a couple of weeks. You can do nolvadex too if you have bad side effects such as headaches etc.

From what I've read, the taper is a waste of time.

Also, your dosage is too low. You're doing a dosage for someone who would use this as Hormone replacement therapy. If you're going to shut your own production off, you need to at least get some benefit out of it. I did 800mg and I'm 6'3" 215 and seriously did a 15 pound swing of fat loss and muscle gain. I'm in my early 40's so I looked great for my age.

I did only 500mg this time as I didn't want to make the gains like last time as it would be too obvious. Has to do with my work and the stigma that goes along with it. My experience this cycle wasn't as good because I also had a cold 3 weeks of the 10 so that was a total piss off.

I see so many guys that try to do it without the PCT and I have no idea why? They become chronic users and essentially abusers with body's that don't look that great when they're done.

Finish your cycle (of a proper dosage) and do Post if you're going to be off for awhile. If you're going to jump back on then don't bother until you're going to be off for many months.
 
If its your first time on Test you will be amazed at 500mg EW (If it really is legit/proper dosed gear) considering the Male body produces 8-11mg of Test a day! Have am AI to hand throughout the entire course as if your E2 levels raise you will feel horrid. As for PCT, got to agree with Genetic Freak, so many people will tell you different things, I would take his advice on PCT.....Also if you can, run the course for 12 weeks rather than 10.....Good luck and keep us informed of progress :)

One side effect to be warned of.......You will want to fuck everything! I mean even a 300lb 60 year old Woman will look good..=D
 
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