Fioricet

[opiatekrzy]

oh gosh the Butalbital in Fioricet is so strong as a CNS depressant it will kill off all the caffeines mild baby like stimulation, i have gottan so fucked up taken these things i was stumbling into shit knoicking stuff over, felt pretty much plastered but cleaner buzz

 

[Violenza666]

the only way to describe seconal is beautiful. :D

i love reds, i have tried them and i wish they were more common. imagine if they were as common as valium or xanax. to bad we're not living in the 50's or 60's...

Some old dude back in the day invited me and some friends to his house to smoke a joint it was across the street from the bar... well I had to pee and there was no tp so I opened his bathroom closet looking for some.. BEHOLD there was nothing but pill bottles from ceiling to floor... I was like WTF why does this old dude have this much medication. I jacked a bottle of reds and some nitro tabs.. lol I was pretty drunk and didnt have much time to look through the rest... but jesus fuck he had a ridiculous pharmacy going. If I only knew then what I know now... lol

 

[StaySedated]

oh gosh the Butalbital in Fioricet is so strong as a CNS depressant it will kill off all the caffeines mild baby like stimulation, i have gottan so fucked up taken these things i was stumbling into shit knoicking stuff over, felt pretty much plastered but cleaner buzz

actually, caffeine directly antagonizes GABAgenic sedatives like barbs and benzos, so it will significantly reduce their effects.

 

[fryingsquirrel]

actually, caffeine directly antagonizes GABAgenic sedatives like barbs and benzos, so it will significantly reduce their effects.

Only for someone with no caffiene tolerance at all. What or we talking here 30 mgs? A cup of coffee or soda has several times that. I drink 2-4 of those huge energy drink and a pot of coffee every day and I'm still a lightweight for benzos. If anything caffiene helps you stay awake to enjough the buzz.

 

[Violenza666]

Only for someone with no caffiene tolerance at all. What or we talking here 30 mgs? A cup of coffee or soda has several times that. I drink 2-4 of those huge energy drink and a pot of coffee every day and I'm still a lightweight for benzos. If anything caffiene helps you stay awake to enjough the buzz.

I concur!

 

[opiatekrzy]

5 fioricets has the equivalent all together of one cup of coffee, believe me the barbiturate in this pill/capsule will over POWE the caffeine no questions asked, the only REASON caffeine is in this pill is so it constricts ur blood vessels in ur brain to pump the butalbital and APAP in faster..not for abuse proof lol

 

[Charles Ferdinand]

Sorry to bump this old thread, but I didn't want to open a new one...
So, is it worth it? I'm thinking about buying it overseas.
BTW, I have a strong tolerance to benzos, nothing on alcohol or barbs though
and somewhat of tolerance to caffeine.
Thanks in advance!
Regards!

 

[effie]

Heya, why don't you want your new thread? Usually our policy is that everyone has a new thread for their question, but if you really don't want one then I can leave this here

I have with experience in this I am afraid.. have you tried searching? Use either the "advanced options" by the search box and "search titles only" or the google powered search in the top right corner.

 

[Charles Ferdinand]

I didn't want to waste of space, plus, I thought it would be nice to have all related questions about some topic in a single thread.
But I didn't know, I'm really sorry effie.
If I can keep this question here then I'd really appreciate any inputs: basically, is fioricet worth it? is it a weak barb? if so, how strong would caffeine cancel its effects?
Thanks in advance!
Regards!

P.S.
Tried the search engine but didn't return anything relevant, gonna try again using your parameters effie, thanks for the suggestion!

 

[tokenname]

5 fioricets has the equivalent all together of one cup of coffee, believe me the barbiturate in this pill/capsule will over POWE the caffeine no questions asked, the only REASON caffeine is in this pill is so it constricts ur blood vessels in ur brain to pump the butalbital and APAP in faster..not for abuse proof lol

Absolutely agree...the cause of many headaches is blood vessels increasing in size...and also really bad music...people that argue about nothing...and red lights..
However, caffeine is a vasocontrictor.
In medications, caffeine seems to increase the value of the painkillers also.
But, I always thought this was a treatment for tension headaches..which is where the butalbital comes into play.
Honestly, I think the best benefit is as an addition to other meds..but that's just me.
With all the apap..it's not worth abusing..probably won't give you what you're looking for.
But, we're all so damn different.....

~token

 

[holyservant]

I can confirm 100% that Fioricet is still scripted. I got a script for 30 Fioricet tablets filled last friday morning. Fioricet is actually unscheduled in the USA and is extremely easy to obtain. 4 tablets had me in a pleasant spaced out state all afternoon and most of the following day. Be careful if abusing these though, they last a really long time (and are very dangerous to combine with alcohol or other sedatives)

 

[tokenname]

Fioricet is actually unscheduled in the USA and is extremely easy to obtain.

Thought it was Schedule IV..
And, fiorinal which contains aspirin instead of apap was Schedule III?

If so..another example of genius at work.

I have been wrong before though....

-token

 

[holyservant]

The barbiturate in Fioricet (butalbital) is schedule III by itself. However when compounded with compounded with paracetamon and caffeine it becomes unscheduled. <snip>

(and this is the last I'll say on this topic, as I'm wary that this is getting a bit close to sourcing which I know is not allowed)

Thought it was Schedule IV..
And, fiorinal which contains aspirin instead of apap was Schedule III?

If so..another example of genius at work.

I have been wrong before though....

-token

 

[opiatekrzy]

yep i agree caffieine/coffe increase opiate metabolis/buzz. etc

 

[bupropion]

The 2002 PDR says that all butalbital products are Schedule III.

Fioricet has butalbital, Tylenol and caffeine as mentioned above, there's also Fioricet with Codeine it's not called Fioricet Plus that I am aware of but I am not totally sure.
Phrenillin is the one without caffeine; Phrenillan Forte just has extra Tylenol.

 

[effie]

I didn't want to waste of space, plus, I thought it would be nice to have all related questions about some topic in a single thread.
But I didn't know, I'm really sorry effie.
If I can keep this question here then I'd really appreciate any inputs: basically, is fioricet worth it? is it a weak barb? if so, how strong would caffeine cancel its effects?
Thanks in advance!
Regards!

P.S.
Tried the search engine but didn't return anything relevant, gonna try again using your parameters effie, thanks for the suggestion!

No worries, it's not set in stone and happy to have you use this thread if you want to!

Lets chill a bit with the legal talk guys, we don't cover legal issues relating to drugs here and we try to stay away from regional stuff too. Definitely no talk about how to obtain drugs, online or otherwise!

Carry on

 

[AlphaOdure]

In the US the fioricet formula is not scheduled; (which is: 325mg acetaminophen (previously 500mg acetaminophen, but lowered after a FDA request), 40mg caffeine, 50mg butalbital). Although we know how things can always change at the beginning of the year (soma/carisoprodol, any memories?)..

The 2002 PDR says that all butalbital products are Schedule III.

I'm sure the phrase you saw in a 10 year old PDR book stating "butalbital products are schedule III" is most likely in reference to any potential product or brand names that contain purely butalbital (this is what happens when people who know nothing about medicine or chemistry make laws pertaining to medicine or chemistry )

Although, to the throw a wild card in there; 1. a state can schedule fioricet itself; 2. a state's pharmacy board can deem it a "dangerous" drug or "drug of interest" or "drug of abuse"--thus limiting access to it, be it online or brick-and-mortar (or black market); 3. the FDA seems to be poking around, at least in the "telemedicine" industry, from my experience.

 

[opiatekrzy]

i became hooked on fiorcet/fiornal when i was in prison, its a combo of butalbital/caffeine/tylenol. it is very short acting, i enjoyed it, when i got home and got my script, it just made me feel drunk, nothing special its a barbiturate, its weird tho, fiorcet is butalbital/caffeine/acetminphen, and its not controlled, but fioronal is butalbital/aspirin/caffeine, and its controlled, why the difference of aspirin and acetminophen make one controlled?

 

[pasha]

We don't cover these kind of questions on the legal status of narcotics.

Old thread. Closed. PM me if you have questions.