finding visuals without mindfuckery

[freaktech]

2c-b. Or maybe 2c-i if you can't get that.

4-ho-met is very pleasant.

2c-b have good visuals for me too (enven at 10mg I can see some perspective changes and "unflating" things). I dont try 4homet though.
Is more emotional/euphoric than 2c-b? 2c-b is very great for sensory amplification but lacks some emotional euphoric response with a bit neutral feel to it. If 4-ho-met give good visuals and is more euphoric can be an excelent compound! 4-aco-dmt on other hand is very visual and veeery euphoric too, but for outdoors visuals i dont recommend it because is extremely sedating...

 

[DwayneHoover]

IMO shrooms are actually quite low on the mind-fuckery aspect. Psilohuasca (syrian rue + psilocybes) is INCREDIBLY HIGH on mind-fuckery. My one experience with LSD was pretty much ALL mind-fuck.

Psilohuasca is great! For me, I was able to halve the amount of shrooms used... 1.5g instead of 2-3 for a very strong trip.

But, oddly, it did not increase the amount of mindfuckery, but seemed to actually REDUCE it. A friend of mine thought so too.

Syrian Rue on its own induces a sort of opiate-like calm evening-out of the mental state, a little zoned-out you might say as well as a fairly pleasant mild body buzz. This seemed to be some sort of stabilizing frequency control... when I took the shrooms after the Rue took effect, it was alot stronger in terms of visual effects than without the Rue, but my mind did NOT careen all over the place like on just shrooms alone. The effect seemed like there was the presence of some over-arching spiritual "Watcher" entity standing over my shoulder the whole time, which made the whole event seem much deeper and more meaningful than shrooms on their own, filled with the guiding omniscient cosmic awareness of this "Watcher", and little to no unstable "oh no I'm gonna die.... oh no I'm a lousy creep... oh no there are monsters in the shadows... etc etc" that shrooms can seem to often trigger.

I found the combo very rewarding.