Finding the right oral/DS/PH

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BlueCrest

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I'm looking for advice on what to add to future cycles.

My favorite cycle so far is just Tren A with a very low dose of prop. Maybe throw in a little mast at the end. This setup works great for cutting as well as dry/lean bulking. I'm also on peptides and plan on staying on that stuff year round. I will probably try NPP with low or medium test as one of my future bulking cycles.

Anyway, what I need is an idea for an oral to add to these cycles that helps me build a lilttle more lean mass. I'm very prone to bloat, even with letro and clean diet, so Dianabol and especially Anadrol are out of the question. Anavar is too expensive, too many fakes, and not really a mass builder anyway. So my best guess would be Turinabol. I do however hear that it's pretty weak. Any other suggestions? DS or PH are fine, too. Superdrol would fit the description but I'm not sure how bad the side effects really are (compared to, say, tren). Or how its strength compares to turinabol (it's stronger, but how much?).
 
Ok, so I did some more research on the prohormones/designer steroids and I think these are the most interesting:


Halodrol: Very similar to turinabol. Slightly less potent (dosage 75-100mg/day) but (for me) cheaper and easier to get than UGL turinabol. Builds lean mass at a slow rate with barely any side effects.

Epistane: Also a weak/slow and mild mass builder but a little more androgenic. It should therefore dry me out a little. But that's not important. I have masteron for that purpose. Dosage 30-50mg/day.

Superdrol: Very strong, dry mass builder. Dosage 20-30mg/day. Also pushes huge amounts of glycogen into the muscles. This will probably lead to a fuller, harder look. But this effect won't last very long. Rough side effects (lethargy, insomnia, massive pumps), very liver toxic, very androgenic.

Ultradrol (methylstenbolone): At 16-20mg/day ultradrol is said to give superdrol-like results with greatly reduced side effects. But liver toxicity is probably the same as superdrol.


I ordered two bottles of ultradrol and will probably try it in a few weeks. Starting at 12mg, then going up to 16 or 20 if possible/necessary. I also ordered TUDCA (every other "liver supplement" is a waste of money) and will use 250mg/day to protect my liver.
 
Test and Tren is a great combination. Masteron makes it all the better.

Halodrol is a very interesting compound; It's an active steroid by itself but it metabolizes into Turinibol at 5% of the total dosage. I'm a fan of the the recomposition effects it gives when used in conjunction with Testosterone. Adding Tren into the picture as well makes for a very nice cycle.

Superdrol is by far my favorite. It's methylated Masteron and I find it superior to Dianabol and Turnibol in terms of gains but it has horrible side effects. You could start at 10mg a day and work your way up to 20mg a day. That's the typical dose people use. I have used 40mg before but it caused nosebleeds and was just too much on my body. Superdrol combined with Tren might make you a bit short tempered and fatigued but it makes for some amazing lean muscle gains.

Methylstenbolone is what will be replacing Superdrol in the coming months. I have used it at a low dose (10mg) and was okay with it but I think 20mg would do the job better form myself.
 
Hope you don't mind me asking questions myself in your thread bro, but I was just wondering when would be best to use superdrol?
I like the sound of its effects and I wouldn't be too bothered about some of the sides, but I can't see it being effective as a cycle kickstart.
Would sdrol be effective in the last 3 weeks of a cycle? Would it give good gains at the end of a cycle?
And does anyone know its legal status in the uk?
 
Thanks for your reply, Guido. Guess I made a good decision then. I will first try the ultradrol on its own (actually with a little test), then maybe try a combination with either NPP or low dose tren.

I might try halodrol and test sometime if I want a mild cycle with minimal side effects.
 
nolys said:
Hope you don't mind me asking questions myself in your thread bro, but I was just wondering when would be best to use superdrol?
I like the sound of its effects and I wouldn't be too bothered about some of the sides, but I can't see it being effective as a cycle kickstart.
Would sdrol be effective in the last 3 weeks of a cycle? Would it give good gains at the end of a cycle?
And does anyone know its legal status in the uk?
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It makes for an amazing kickstart. The gains you make during the four weeks from it end up being solidified by the Testosterone during the rest of the cycle. Really anabolic orals do best at the start of a cycle while orals with low anabolic effects and high androgenic effects shine during the last few weeks of a cycle.
 
BlueCrest said:
Thanks for your reply, Guido. Guess I made a good decision then. I will first try the ultradrol on its own (actually with a little test), then maybe try a combination with either NPP or low dose tren.

I might try halodrol and test sometime if I want a mild cycle with minimal side effects.
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No problem. You certainly did bro.

Halodrol and Test is a really mild cycle. It's a feel good cycle. It's great for people who just jumped into steroids or even veterans who want something simple and want to take it easy on a cycle for a change.
 
nolys said:
Hope you don't mind me asking questions myself in your thread bro, but I was just wondering when would be best to use superdrol?
I like the sound of its effects and I wouldn't be too bothered about some of the sides, but I can't see it being effective as a cycle kickstart.
Would sdrol be effective in the last 3 weeks of a cycle? Would it give good gains at the end of a cycle?
And does anyone know its legal status in the uk?
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Are you in the UK M8'...?
 
I thought that because sdrol is best run for 3 weeks that the test would not be working yet and there would be a gap between when ur sdrol cycle ends and your test begins to work.

And yes genetic, well north of ireland anyway.
 
If you inject test-e, your testosterone levels start rising after a few hours. It takes 3-4 weeks to reach really high levels (you can easily reach 10 times your pre-cycle value). That's why people say it "kicks in" after 3 or 4 weeks. But your test level is already several times the normal value after just one or two weeks. And that's enough to keep the gains you got from superdrol.

You will always lose a little bit of weight if you come off superdrol. But that's not muscle, just glycogen. Your muscles store enormous amounts of glycogen while you're on sd (or similar steroids like m1t or ultradrol).
 
If you never used an oral before, you should start with a mild one. Turinabol or Halodrol (almost the same compound, ~20% weaker) are supposed to be the two orals with the least side effects. You can start with 40mg Tbol (or 50mg Halodrol). If you feel fine, you should up the dose to 60mg Tbol (75mg Hdrol). It's not recommended to use more than 80mg Tbol or 100mg Hdrol. They're mild but still taxing on the liver. Duration should be 6 or max. 8 weeks.

Dianabol is similar, but stronger and aromatizes heavily. So you have to run an AI with it. Typical dosage is 30-50mg, duration 4-5 weeks. I won't use dianabol again because it bloated me even though I used an AI (letro). But most people like it.

You shouldn't use sdrol as your first oral.
 
I have a bottle of liquid adex here so if I run dbol I can just run those two together. I think I will use dbol first then possibly sdrol some time in future.
Bloat wouldn't bother me I don't think, just a temporary problem anyway.
Thanks for the input bro, I like you, stick around SD, very good detailed posts and seem like a decent guy.
 
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