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Final chapter in Melb Gang War - Carl Williams dead

Sameria said:
Back on topic. I'd be very surprised if some piggies didn't go down for this whole debacle. Way too dodgy....
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Something's rotten in the State of Victoria :\

Killing may have been attack on justice system
JOHN SILVESTER
April 22, 2010

The investigation into the murder of gangland figure Carl Williams should, on the surface, be a simple one.

The prosecution will allege there is security camera vision of the event, it was in a confined area and the alleged murder weapon was found at the scene. Much like the maximum security division of Acacia in Barwon Prison - it is open and shut.

But the decision to establish a police taskforce into the circumstances surrounding the murder hints at something much deeper and, perhaps darker.

While the homicide squad will concentrate on what happened, Taskforce Driver will investigate why.

Many people who venture onto websites and talkback radio have expressed the view that Williams' death is no great loss. ''Live by the sword, die by the sword,'' is their theme.

It is one that Premier John Brumby chose to echo yesterday in dismissing calls for a judicial inquiry. ''I know there's been some calls today for a royal commission. To be honest, what occurred in the prison was obviously unacceptable, but the person concerned was a serial killer,'' he said.

It is the sort of knee-jerk comment that may come back to bite the Premier in an election year.

Chief Commissioner Simon Overland's decision to pour resources into Driver shows this is more than an investigation into the death of a crook.

Driver will investigate claims the killing was set up by serving or former police. It will identify those who stood to gain by his death.

It will conduct financial audits to see if anyone had something to gain and check if anyone was acting under duress because they had something to lose.

Police have already said Williams' death will have an impact on ongoing investigations.

Due to legal restraints it may take weeks for the ramifications of Williams' death to surface, but when it does it will become clear why it was essential that a taskforce be established.

It is possible the death was motivated by nothing more than a prison tiff. But if police fears are right, the bashing death of Williams was not just an attack on a gangland killer but an attack on the criminal justice system itself.

The head of Driver is Superintendent Doug Fryer, an energetic detective who has an impressive record as head of the drug taskforce.

It will be under the direct control of Deputy Commissioner Sir Ken Jones, who said yesterday: ''It is clear that the murder of Carl Williams has potentially wide-ranging implications beyond the obvious.''

The taskforce is expected to work in conjunction with the Australian Crime Commission and to use the coercive powers of the authority to demand answers from witnesses.

Some of those witnesses are expected to include police, prison officers and members of the media.

Watch this space.

John Silvester is a senior crime writer at The Age.
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Meanwhile, the Premier (the real Premier) is resisting calls for a Royal Commission

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/g...or-royal-commission-brumby-20100422-tdsh.html

What's there not to get, Mr. Brumby? It isn't about Carl, it's about the information Carl was killed over. As pointed out in the media, at least one high profile murder case is now null and void. What exactly do you have to hide? :\

Veteran police reporter John Silvester, joint author of the Underbelly series of books on which the TV series was based, came as close as anyone to spelling out the issue in a video clip on The Age's website on Tuesday. The killing may have taken place because the killer went troppo over some minor grudge, Silvester said. But it may have been a paid hit, organised from outside the prison. And he went on:

"If this was set up from outside, it's not an attack on Carl Williams, it's an attack on the criminal justice system. You can't overstate how important that is... You can't imagine a crime more important."

More than that he can't say. Nobody can.

Victorian journalists have been wrestling with this problem for years. The extent of the connections between corrupt police and the crooks they are supposed to be catching is always acutely difficult for journalists to expose. In Victoria, all too often, even when those connections are revealed in court, they can't be reported to the wider public, because of measures taken by the courts themselves.

The irony, of course, is that those measures are supposedly designed to protect the integrity of the criminal justice system. But too often, they are keeping from the public information that is all too well known to the underworld. Too often, they fail in their principle aim - because, suppression orders notwithstanding, witnesses are intimidated and withdraw cooperation, or die untimely deaths, and prosecutors have no option but to drop cases.

One solution, as many have said before me, would be a Royal Commission, dedicated, as the Wood Royal Commission in New South Wales was, to hauling the open secrets into the full light of public scrutiny.

Yes, it would cost a lot of money. Yes, some lawyers would get richer. Yes, there's a chance that the guilty would go free, because evidence compelled by a Royal Commission is inadmissible in a criminal trial. But the current state of affairs, arguably, is worse.

Yet the Victorian Government has stubbornly refused to take that path. So the media continues to know far more than it can tell the public. And it satisfies its readers and viewers instead with sensation, and gossip, and innuendo, and dramas in which bare breasts get the ratings, while the bare facts remain suppressed.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/04/22/2880047.htm?site=thedrum
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Victoria, the State of Secrecy
 
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I've read a bit on all this.... and read into it at the time, and i have to say i agree... If this wasn't a joint media/police hit, paid to carl and his family well in advance - im a monkey's uncle.


Everything happened far too quickly. From the media shedding light on taxpayer money, to his death 6-8hrs later.
 
i heard roberta visited carl the day before he was killed and said to him "geez carl your looking fat, a treadmill wouldnt kill ya..."
 
bit_pattern said:
Something's rotten in the State of Victoria :\



Meanwhile, the Premier (the real Premier) is resisting calls for a Royal Commission

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/g...or-royal-commission-brumby-20100422-tdsh.html

What's there not to get, Mr. Brumby? It isn't about Carl, it's about the information Carl was killed over. As pointed out in the media, at least one high profile murder case is now null and void. What exactly do you have to hide? :\



Victoria, the State of Secrecy
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According to Brumby it's a "waste of tax-payers money". That's right folks, it is not a waste to spend millions advertising themselves, but it is a waste to investigate police corruption. It's quite apparent Brumby is terrified of what might be found, which he would then be expected to fix.
 
apples said:
i heard roberta visited carl the day before he was killed and said to him "geez carl your looking fat, a treadmill wouldnt kill ya..."
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Sound's more like a joke someone has made up :\ ....but who no's
 
WitchfinderGeneral said:
According to Brumby it's a "waste of tax-payers money". That's right folks, it is not a waste to spend millions advertising themselves, but it is a waste to investigate police corruption. It's quite apparent Brumby is terrified of what might be found, which he would then be expected to fix.
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I've heard talk over the last few days that the fear of opening the corruption worm can is what is largely behind the witch hunt against Commissioner Nixon atm. :\

There is something afoot, something that journalists and those in the know are aware of, but media restrictions are preventing them from reporting on. We need a Royal Commission and we need it now. This is MUCH bigger than Carl Williams.
 
bit_pattern said:
I've heard talk over the last few days that the fear of opening the corruption worm can is what is largely behind the witch hunt against Commissioner Nixon atm. :\

There is something afoot, something that journalists and those in the know are aware of, but media restrictions are preventing them from reporting on. We need a Royal Commission and we need it now. This is MUCH bigger than Carl Williams.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. What've you got to hide, Brumby?
 
yeah this is far bigger than carl williams. The guy who killed him was gonna die in prison no matter what, so its no risk to him to do it in a country without the death penalty.

It's all just way to fuckn obvious that this is about money and not the person. Our media censoring is catching every thing.
 
Rees resigned over the Black Saturday RC, he says he jumped but its obvious he was pushed. I only mentioned it to highlight the extreme political pressure senior police are under atm
 
Carl Williams to be sent out in gold coffin

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A LARGE gold plated coffin carrying the body of Carl Williams has been carried in to St Therese's catholic church in Essendon.

Williams' funeral will be held today at the church, where his mother Barbara was also farewelled in 2008.

Heavy security will surround the service. Police road blocks have been set up around the church, and uniformed Victoria Police officers were this morning conducting sweeps through surrounding businesses.

Roberta Williams, the gangland kingpin's ex-wife has previously said she wanted to send her former husband off with "a big bang".

Williams was bashed to death with the stem of an exercise bike by a fellow prisoner in the high security Acacia Unit of Barwon Prison.

The inmate, who cannot be named, has been charged with his murder.

Williams had been serving a 35-year minimum jail term for three gangland murders.
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...-off-with-a-bang/story-e6frg6nf-1225860518043
 
the gold coffin worth about $30000


police heli hovering over church $2000 an hour ... tactical response police on standby ... $$$$$$$

The police were paying for carls kids school and even the tax office was going to give his father a break ... I wonder if the police are paying for his funeral as well ??? oh yeah and don't forget the victim of crime compo his daughter will recieve .... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

alot of $$$$$ more tax payers money down the toilet ...

Carl had all his assets taken away when busted ... I bet some of it will be released back to the family ... well to his daughter ...
 
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