Film: Thirteen

[StuffedTiger]

Dude whatever, that girl had a shitty homelife. She comes home on e and her mom and her boyfriend are too fucking drunk to notice? to self involved to try to help her instead of just yelling at her to try and make the problem go away.... yeah that girl had a fine family.

 

[~winter moonlight~]

Better than most. She was not abused, her mother DID care about her. And the scene you are referring to, she was on acid, not E, and it was her first drug use, her mother had NO reason to even suspect she was on anything. She yelled at her for staying out late. And like most teenage girls, yelling and slaming the door is the only response you are going to get from them at that point.
She had food, a mother and brother that cared about her, thats more than a lot of kids have....

 

[Trippies]

still have yet to see this, though I wanted to catch it in theaters (though, just like with spun, i went by the theater a day too late). I'll edit this again and repost once i've seen it (probably this weekend).
trippies

 

[LILJo]

i really liked this movie...it def. left me speechless. the best friend character does exist im glad none of you ever experienced anyone like that but those type of people really do.
i dont know about the whole age factor because personally my drug use was not that advanced at 13 but i really cant say it could never happen because i hear more and more young teens getting themselves in situations.
The fact this is a coming of age movie. its a girl who attempts to fit in and tries to find herself and also trying to grow up at the same time and looking for a role model of sorts..since there wasnt any role models around her she chooses the next best thing.. the popular girl in school. the mother wasnt bad but its not someone you admire.

 

[rah]

i see alot of kids this age and younger that make this look like playschool.. oh well at least they get to learn some life lessons for themselves before they reach adulthood

 

[cravNbeets]

winter moonlight ~ if you think the story line is implausible thats one thing but try to rember that this is a movie. i would take issue with a few of your criticisms of the protagonist's family life. you said that her mother loved her and i would totally agree, but did you not see how the mother daughter relationship suffered as her mom tried to be more a friend than a mother. she allowed things to go on that shouldnt have in order to remain close to her daughter. this, much as in reality, ended up driving them farther apart.

she had no dad = "BIG DEAL" lol what country do you live in

also you said that the mother's bf having a coke problem was no big thing. i would say that if my mom chose an abusive hard drug user as her rebound to my dad, i would be little less than pleased.

those of you who are saying that this is a film about late teen years not early teen years wtf is the matter w/ you? are you really that short sighted? do you understand that YOUR reality isnt reality for everyone else. personally i know a kid that lost his virginity at the age of 12. i knew kids that were getting drunk in their closet b4 middle school. this wasnt my reality but it does happen.

i'll totally agree on the melodramatic issue tho but how perfect is that. when you're 13 your friends are your life. what people think of you is gospel and family means fuck all. this film really hit home with me. i thought the acting was superior and the camera work was exceptional. it takes a lot for me to notice things like camera work and lighting but the way this film was shot really pulled me into it. it may've made me sick to my stomach but thats better than nothing eh...

solid flick

 

[cravNbeets]

good idea to delete my little troglodyte

 

[shezinphx]

This film hit real close to home for me as well. Here where I live 13 is the age where you go to a new school, junior high, so everything changes. I don't think the film was overdramatic. It actually made me cry at the end. I wanted to call my mom and apologize for everything I did.

 

[JTNOLA5211]

I know I might get jumped all over for this, but I don't remember anyone I know being like that at 13. Maybe a few beers and some making out--some kid gave or received some head but nothing to the extent of what was portrayed in this movie.
I guess it was good that the kids were young and it sort of added to the slap in the face of shock that you received.
All in all I think it was a great movie that didn't tie up nicely at the end. (thats a good thing in my book)

I knew plenty of girls like that or worse at that age.......Drugs, sex , everything. I remeber being shocked when some of these girls would be getting picked up from school by 18 - 20 something ur old guys.....I thought it was tstupid but i didnt understand it like i do now.....Those are some sick ass dudes!!! These girls were 12 - 14!!!

My parents werent strict or anything but they stayed on my ass and the way the mom was so obliviuos to diff things brought back memories of alot of freinds' parents.

The way the mom was prtryed i think was spot on. She was fucking clueless. Ive been w/ friends, fucked up out of our minds, and talked w/ their parents and i was shocked that they couldnt tell how plastered we were. The thing is, parents are fucking stiupid.

The only thing that i guess kept my ass in line is b/c both my parents did alot of shit that i was doing. So they knew what the fuck was going on.

Anyways great movie. I have a 14 yr old sis and my step mom asked me if that was a good movie for her. I said 'fuck no!'

 

[opiatefreak]

everyone is making that girl sound like she was some hardcore druggie. she smoked some pot, huffed (Which is fucking stupid if i might add) and drank liquor and tripped on acid. Me and my friends were getting baked at age already. I don't have a shitty life, i aint poor and my parents care. her parents tucked her in and loved her. She didn't live in some ghetto slum crackhouse or nothing. I could see if she was doin oxy and shit or smoking crack but she wasn't doing anything that EXTREME. whatever...

 

[~winter moonlight~]

everyone is making that girl sound like she was some hardcore druggie. she smoked some pot, huffed (Which is fucking stupid if i might add) and drank liquor and tripped on acid. Me and my friends were getting baked at age already. I don't have a shitty life, i aint poor and my parents care. her parents tucked her in and loved her. She didn't live in some ghetto slum crackhouse or nothing. I could see if she was doin oxy and shit or smoking crack but she wasn't doing anything that EXTREME. whatever...

Thank you!!

 

[Ketamike]

Fotograf?

I knew I hit rock bottom when I was giving my last ten dollars to a homie with gold teeth.

 

[MynameisnotDeja]

I took it that the shit that guy (who was really gross btw) had in that bottle was something like moonshine...I believe he called it "moon juice" not "voodoo juice".

I rented this movie and watched it three times this week.

I definately enjoyed it..I also was reminded of my life, but DEFINATELY not that young...I went through all of that at around 17-18 to be honest..most of my middle school/high school years were spent either too depressed and starving myself so I couldn't get out of bed, or hopped up on a million and one perscription meds which made me act like a tweaker. No illegal drugs.

I definately went through a shoplifting phase..I could totally relate to that part of the movie.

During the part when Tracey comes home frying, I sat there like, "HOW could they NOT know that she was on drugs?" It seemed very weird to me, especially considering the guy was an ex crackhead and the mom was in 12 step for..SOMETHING..I dunno they never really say what her past was like..but she was in recovery so she obviously didn't have some un-touched innocent past. You would think they would be able to tell.

This movie totally captured what it is like to be on top of the world in your early teens..to find an awesome best friend. It made me kind of sad watching it..it made me miss best friends from the past.

The girl *Nikki Reed* who played Evie was amazing...the scene where Tracey is about to get her tongue peirced and she lights up a ciggarette..her manerisms(sp?) are just..on point. She looked like a tiny little 30 year old. She totally played it up during some parts and in other parts she seemed like a 13 year old should seem-YOUNG.

I could totally relate to this movie, even though it left me feeling sort of sad (I felt SO bad for Tracey when Evie and all the cool girls started snubbing her). A lot of my life was like that.

 

[OCfiend]

everyone is making that girl sound like she was some hardcore druggie. she smoked some pot, huffed (Which is fucking stupid if i might add) and drank liquor and tripped on acid. Me and my friends were getting baked at age already. I don't have a shitty life, i aint poor and my parents care. her parents tucked her in and loved her. She didn't live in some ghetto slum crackhouse or nothing. I could see if she was doin oxy and shit or smoking crack but she wasn't doing anything that EXTREME. whatever...

I agree. That girl was a whiny little bitch to begin with and bitched about everything. Her mom was concerned and if any of u paid attention you would have noticed that her mom was crying a lot because of her daughter. When i was 13 i smoked weed and did some painkillers here and there. No one made a movie about me. The girl was just another white trash skank. Who cares. Gay movie

 

[sOn]

i have never seen this movie but from what i hear from you guys it sounds like its all blown out of proportion

 

[lost_boi]

"CHICKENS ARE COOL"

that was probably my favourite part of the whole movie.
Wasnt that bad a movie though.
I think it just portrayed the way life is for SOME people at that age pretty well. 'cut' pretty close to real issues for many people. It didnt seem as if they were worried about offending anybody. I thought that was really good for a change.

 

[Strawberry_lovemuffin]

That girl was a whiny little bitch to begin with and bitched about everything. Her mom was concerned and if any of u paid attention you would have noticed that her mom was crying a lot because of her daughter.

Exactly. I agree with you, opiatefreak and ~wintermoonlight~. The girl needed a good slap in the face and I wanted to give her one from around 10 minutes into the movie onwards. She was an extremely unlikeable, disrespectful, selfish little bitch. I had no sympathy whatsoever for her 'problems' - I grew up without a dad and I didn't so much as raise my voice at my mum, let alone swear obscenities to her and kick her groceries all over the floor. And she has no-one but herself to blame for choosing the sort of "friend" she chose. There are no victims in this story, least of all the protagonists.

I agree that her mum was far too passive-agressive but she was doing the best she could, as far as I could see. The boyfriend was a druggie and was perhaps a poor choice whilst he was using, but he never did anything wrong as far as *I* could see during the movie. Despite facing hissy fits of a herculian nature when he attempted to reconcile with this girl, he stayed on when the going got tough (more than her own father did). He never fought her back. He tried to help her mum. He clearly was trying to be a better man.

I actually liked this movie by the way. But I don't see how anyone, *anyone* could possibly feel a shred of pity for the main character. She created her own hell, willfully and unnecessarily. And in the process created one for everyone around her.

 

[missadict]

MynameisnotDeja, i totally agree with what you were saying about "evies' mannerisms, they actually almost made me uncomfortable seeing a young girl seem so womanly and wordly, it was very confronting. I gave my mum hell when I was probebly 15-16 and alot of mother-daughter scenes in that movie made me cringe. But saying that I never dressed like that, did drugs, or really most of that stuff she did, just spoke teribly to mum. I think the relation ship was protrayed accurately and I don't think you were supposed to have sympythy for any one chracter, I think it showed in a way the complexities of female relationships.

I mean turning 13 is hard enough for some girls but to throw in adult experiences with that, its enough to mess with anyones head. I think to say that just because 13 years olds are more likely to keep there friends close because of drug use is unrealistic. When it comes down to it most 13 year olds need there family, and on some level crave their trust and acceptence blaming a mate for the bud found in their bedroom always seems like a good idea at the time.

Evie uses her looks to manipulate cos thats what she see's as her strength, it interesting to aknowledge that a girl that looks like that would not have much of a chance of being treated or having any different expectations of turning out any other way. Having the attentions of boys 4 or 5 years older than her obvously isent healthy but this was a girl craving attention and affection and not really worried were it came from.

The fickleness totally reminded me of my early high school years, when you'd make plans to go to someones house for the weekend, call them up and the'd tell you "oh kates staying here now" etc etc. Its funny that kinda crap happend to everyone, and its a shame how awful girls can be to each other.

I enjoyed the film but it also scared the shit out of me, that they are young girls out there like that, call me ignorant, but i find it a bit sad.

 

[missadict]

and just a quick thought did anyone think that maybe something awful had happened to Tracey before, Evvie came onto the scene, based on like the poem at the beginning and the amount of cutting scars, some abuse was hintted at maybe?
(sorry post monster)

 

[PG Tips]

Was Tracey cutting before the time frame of the film? I only thought about this after I'd returned the film... d'oh!!!