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film: hero
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Stark
Bluelight Crew
Maybe he forgot to turn the subtitles on.
Hero is absolutely brilliant. It's pure poetry captured in motion. Never have i seen such a visually impressive movie as Hero. It's dreamlike in the way this picture flows along it's storyline with it's characters floating in and out of picture. Never was i so impressed by the stunnig quality of its images that it left me dreaming about it weeks afterwards. Never have i seen a picture in which all the individual components not only add up to more than the whole, but makes the whole expentionally greater.
KaideAlike44
Bluelighter
Is it just me or does this movie have the same title as the movie with Dustin Hoffman and Andy Garcia?
(can't tell if the translation is acurate or not though)Movie Review - Hero
If you like Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, you'll like this flick. Visually stunning, the martial arts was quite good, and that little Chinese chick is in it.
A lot of people didn't get the movie which I thought was amusing. I heard a bunch of "Did you follow the movie?" at the end of the flick.
I'm definitely buying this when it comes out on DVD. I give it a 4/5 swords.
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If you like Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, you'll like this flick. Visually stunning, the martial arts was quite good, and that little Chinese chick is in it.
A lot of people didn't get the movie which I thought was amusing. I heard a bunch of "Did you follow the movie?" at the end of the flick.
I'm definitely buying this when it comes out on DVD. I give it a 4/5 swords.
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onetwothreefour
Bluelight Crew
there's already a hero thread (about five posts down). have a look or a search first next time, please 
merging now.
merging now.
onetwothreefour
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DemonsFall
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I just saw this last night, and I for one was extremely impressed. A friend of mine who had seen it already told me that it was good, but not really anything that special. I think it's one of the best films I've seen recently.
I thought the story and the characters were very interesting. The martial arts scenes were incredible, all though I thought they went a little too far with the wire action at some points (the fight over the water, and the fight in the forest with the blowing leaves, particularly seemed a little ridiculous). The first fight scene is really incredible.
Visually, this movie is absolutely stunning. The cinematography is beautiful, probably some of the best I've ever seen. The sets are amazing in how dreamlike they are.
The acting was excellent for all the major characters. The actor who portrays Broken Sword did an excellent job, as did all the others, but his performance stood out a lot for me.
Overall, I would say this is one of the better movies I have ever seen, and I for one enjoyed it a lot. Highly recomended.
I thought the story and the characters were very interesting. The martial arts scenes were incredible, all though I thought they went a little too far with the wire action at some points (the fight over the water, and the fight in the forest with the blowing leaves, particularly seemed a little ridiculous). The first fight scene is really incredible.
Visually, this movie is absolutely stunning. The cinematography is beautiful, probably some of the best I've ever seen. The sets are amazing in how dreamlike they are.
The acting was excellent for all the major characters. The actor who portrays Broken Sword did an excellent job, as did all the others, but his performance stood out a lot for me.
Overall, I would say this is one of the better movies I have ever seen, and I for one enjoyed it a lot. Highly recomended.
KURVE
Bluelighter
First off let me say I'm a huge martial arts fan. I love to watch classic black and white samurai movies from the 50's and 60's (i.e. Seven samurai), and i have been the the theater to see every Jet li movie to come out. The "Once upon a time in China" series are the best by the way... So needless to say i have been anticipating this films release over here for awhile (over a year). I left the theater last night with the biggest feeling of disappointment i have ever had, and i wish it wasn't so.
I give it credit for all it's artistic value. Cinematography, and music score were all excellent. THe majority of the fight scenes were sick as hell. There's just something about the whole "Crouching tiger hidden dragon" thing that rubs me raw. I've tried to understand it and appreciate it but when it comes down to i just can't swallow all the wire fighting. Like someone else said, the scene were they were running and fighting on the water was just plain ridiculous. Other than the few wire scenes that made me cringe, the movie was top notch. I walked away with almost the same feelings as when i left Crouching TIger. THe movie was border line bad ass. The wire scenes totaly screwed it (only my opinion). I would give it a seven out of ten. Of course i'll buy a copy when i can, to add to my jet li collection, but i'll always have some what ill feeling towards it. Down with the floaty shite!! %)
. So needless to say i have been anticipating this films release over here for awhile (over a year). I left the theater last night with the biggest feeling of disappointment i have ever had, and i wish it wasn't so. I give it credit for all it's artistic value. Cinematography, and music score were all excellent. THe majority of the fight scenes were sick as hell. There's just something about the whole "Crouching tiger hidden dragon" thing that rubs me raw. I've tried to understand it and appreciate it but when it comes down to i just can't swallow all the wire fighting. Like someone else said, the scene were they were running and fighting on the water was just plain ridiculous. Other than the few wire scenes that made me cringe, the movie was top notch. I walked away with almost the same feelings as when i left Crouching TIger. THe movie was border line bad ass. The wire scenes totaly screwed it (only my opinion). I would give it a seven out of ten. Of course i'll buy a copy when i can, to add to my jet li collection, but i'll always have some what ill feeling towards it. Down with the floaty shite!! %)
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^^^^I think the wire scenes are poetic in a snesne that the chinese believe thats how they are figthing spirtually as well as physically....
Watch any old 70's or 80's kung fu movie.......Its the same impossible flying moves.....Its always been like that.....Its never been done or seen much in american cinema..
Watch any old 70's or 80's kung fu movie.......Its the same impossible flying moves.....Its always been like that.....Its never been done or seen much in american cinema..
The Mexican
Bluelighter
Hero
I'm kinda with KURVE and DemonsFall on this one...
I absolutely love Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, but I was slightly disappointed with Hero. Maybe my expectations were too high since I've been eagerly waiting for this movie to hit the states or maybe I compared it to CTHD too much.
My only complaint with this movie was some of the wire action just didn't seem right. A scene would go from fast paced swordplay action to a VERY slow wire-float move, it just seemed to mess up the flow for me. And the way they were flipping around that lake reminded me of The Greatest American Hero. It was one of the most beautiful scenes in the film, but at moments they just seemed a little awkward, out of control and kinda silly-looking. I'm sure a wire fight scene over a lake is pretty hard to pull off so I cut them some slack, but it made me giggle a little anyway.
Overall I really liked this movie. Both the cinematography and sets were breathtaking and there is lots of great martial arts action. Great use of color and composition. Good story and dramatic acting. Definite purchase when the DVD comes out.
I'm kinda with KURVE and DemonsFall on this one...
I absolutely love Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, but I was slightly disappointed with Hero. Maybe my expectations were too high since I've been eagerly waiting for this movie to hit the states or maybe I compared it to CTHD too much.
My only complaint with this movie was some of the wire action just didn't seem right. A scene would go from fast paced swordplay action to a VERY slow wire-float move, it just seemed to mess up the flow for me. And the way they were flipping around that lake reminded me of The Greatest American Hero. It was one of the most beautiful scenes in the film, but at moments they just seemed a little awkward, out of control and kinda silly-looking. I'm sure a wire fight scene over a lake is pretty hard to pull off so I cut them some slack, but it made me giggle a little anyway.
Overall I really liked this movie. Both the cinematography and sets were breathtaking and there is lots of great martial arts action. Great use of color and composition. Good story and dramatic acting. Definite purchase when the DVD comes out.
KURVE
Bluelighter
I'm aware that's how it's always been done. I have a collection of martial arts flicks that would baffle you. The young kids over there have always loved that super animated/ flying around stuff. That's one of the things Bruce Lee was trying to break away from in his films. I've even defended the wire scenes in CTHD for it's artistic value. There's is a "TON" of wire fighting in the"once upon a time in China" series. I have no problem with it cause it was done nicely and looks sick. It just didn't sit right with me in Hero. My gripe isn't necessarily with the wire fighting itself, just the way it was done.
skjalff
Bluelighter
Guys, just IMO its the best movie Visually ever made. Its no wonder hollywood delayed its american release, it fucking embarassing for america, H-wood will NEVER measure up to this. Not even a chance
and now, you need to recognize this movie for what it is. Its a LEGEND, a MYTH put on tape, you dont ask How come Hercules is so strong?? reading Greek epos, or how come Ra's golden boat can float across the sky when you are reading Egyptian mythology, mythology does not need explanations and physical justifications, if there is wire fights there, try and think why they may be there, for it is indeed for a good reason if they were in both Crotch tiger and Hero. watch and enjoy.
skjalff
and now, you need to recognize this movie for what it is. Its a LEGEND, a MYTH put on tape, you dont ask How come Hercules is so strong?? reading Greek epos, or how come Ra's golden boat can float across the sky when you are reading Egyptian mythology, mythology does not need explanations and physical justifications, if there is wire fights there, try and think why they may be there, for it is indeed for a good reason if they were in both Crotch tiger and Hero. watch and enjoy.
skjalff
IhaveNoLegs
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I done just seen it last night. One of the few movies in the past 4-5 years that deserves to be called breath taking. A theater makes it a heckuva lot cooler. dripping water scene best the one be.
anarky
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In regards to the 'fighting on water' scene looking silly, and over the top, is actually very common and not at all silly or over the top. To be able to make yourself weightless is an actual method of kung-fu and although not exaggerated to the point of standing on water, people could actually jump rather high distances and fall from high places without hurting themselves after years and years of training.
Being able to fight on top of water in Chinese movies not only shows people how graceful the character is, but more importantly, his 'skill level'. To be able to concentrate your 'weightlessness' to one certain point is the most advanced form of being 'weightless'.
The movie itself is crafted from an intergral part of China's history, the attempted assasination of China's first emperor, Chun Chi Wang. So; however you might dislike the ending or how stupid you think it is, no one would dare change the outcome of such an important peice of history. Because it is not so widely known who China's first emperor was, an good comparison of this would be Caesar not being murdered by his own loyal subjects because some mercinary came and rescued him. Or Jesus living to a ripe age of 86.
Overall, the movie is simply breathtaking and one of my favourite movies of all time. Please watch this movie without thinking that it is only just another kung-fu flick, it is not - it is part of history, and a movie of this capacity means that every movement and scene is there for a reason.
Enjoy.
Being able to fight on top of water in Chinese movies not only shows people how graceful the character is, but more importantly, his 'skill level'. To be able to concentrate your 'weightlessness' to one certain point is the most advanced form of being 'weightless'.
The movie itself is crafted from an intergral part of China's history, the attempted assasination of China's first emperor, Chun Chi Wang. So; however you might dislike the ending or how stupid you think it is, no one would dare change the outcome of such an important peice of history. Because it is not so widely known who China's first emperor was, an good comparison of this would be Caesar not being murdered by his own loyal subjects because some mercinary came and rescued him. Or Jesus living to a ripe age of 86.
Overall, the movie is simply breathtaking and one of my favourite movies of all time. Please watch this movie without thinking that it is only just another kung-fu flick, it is not - it is part of history, and a movie of this capacity means that every movement and scene is there for a reason.
Enjoy.
skjalff
Bluelighter
couldn't have said it better, anarky!!
everything in it is there for a good reason
skjalff
everything in it is there for a good reason
skjalff
Raz
Bluelighter
I just saw this tonight, and I thought it was one of the most beautiful pieces of cinema I've seen...in terms of looking at it as art, the only other film I can think of which had the same kind of effect on me was Baraka.
I was also really taken by the strong sense of honor and romance that pervaded the story. The whole old-school mythic epic feel that it captured makes a nice change from your standard Hollywood explosion movie (though I like those too
). Actually, on that note...for a film which had so much fighting and death in it, it was interesting to see how little bloodshed and graphic violence was really seen. The fight scenes were, as someone else said, poetry in motion, and everything about this movie visually was breathtaking.
On another note....I kind of find it difficult to see how people couldn't follow the story. I know pretty much nothing about Chinese history and mythology, and I didn't have a problem following the story at all...
I was also really taken by the strong sense of honor and romance that pervaded the story. The whole old-school mythic epic feel that it captured makes a nice change from your standard Hollywood explosion movie (though I like those too
). Actually, on that note...for a film which had so much fighting and death in it, it was interesting to see how little bloodshed and graphic violence was really seen. The fight scenes were, as someone else said, poetry in motion, and everything about this movie visually was breathtaking.On another note....I kind of find it difficult to see how people couldn't follow the story. I know pretty much nothing about Chinese history and mythology, and I didn't have a problem following the story at all...
Belisarius
Bluelighter
Though the "flying through the air" fighting shtick has been done before, this was undoubtedly one of the most gorgeously-shot movies I've ever seen; my jaw dropped many times. Not to mention that I loved the musical score, and the interesting philosophical questions the movie raised about the ideal relationship between the ruler and the ruled.
Not to mention that I loved the musical score, and the interesting philosophical questions the movie raised about the ideal relationship between the ruler and the ruled.