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Moore's film plays near Bush's ranch

Hundreds of people gathered in a rural car park near George Bush's Texas ranch to watch Michael Moore's anti-Bush documentary, "Fahrenheit 9/11," although the filmmaker cancelled plans to attend.

Filmgoers from across Texas watched the documentary on a giant inflatable movie screen on Wednesday.

They booed and cheered as Moore's record-setting anti-war film satirically recounted Bush's controversial 2000 election and lambasted the president's response to the11 September 2001 attacks and his reasons for going to war in Iraq.

Few local filmgoers

Moore had pledged to come to the screening and even invited Bush to attend. But the bespectacled director abruptly pulled out on Wednesday, telling organisers he wanted his movie, not his differences with the Republican president, to be the evening's subject.

"But we're all here tonight," said John Wolf, leader of a Texas network of peace activists that organised the screening and asked for an $8 donation as admission to benefit a local activist centre called the "Crawford Peace House."

Half a mile (1km) away, scores of Bush supporters gathered for a rally to show their support for the president. Some were business owners from the Lone Star Parkway, Crawford's main street, which features several presidential souvenir shops.

Bush is vacationing this week at his 1600-acre (650- hectare) ranch during the Democratic National Convention in Boston that nominated John Kerry on Wednesday for president.

Moore has been in Boston during the convention where he has attracted enormous media coverage.

Some at the screening booed and catcalled when Moore appeared in the film with his signature baseball hat and blue jeans.

Organisers said they wanted to bring "Fahrenheit 9/11" to Crawford, located about 7 miles (11km) from Bush's Prairie Chapel ranch, so local people would have the chance to see it.

But only a handful of moviegoers from the tiny hamlet of Crawford were in attendance. There appeared to be twice as many foreign exchange students from Belgium as locals.

Confrontation

The pro-Bush rally in Crawford, a traditionally Democratic town with a population of 705, also attracted many from outlying areas, including ranchers.

"There aren't many people in Crawford. So whenever you have a large crowd, most people will be from someplace else," said Crawford police chief Donnie Tidmore.

The two camps confronted each other briefly near the entrance to the outdoor theatre near the Crawford High School football field, where a middle-aged Moore supporter encountered several young anti-Moore protesters holding a cloth sign that read: "Fahrenheit 9/11: Moore Liberal BS"

"Name the lies in Michael Moore's film. None of you can," the Moore supporter, Dallas musician Rick Charles, scolded the
youths.

"Fahrenheit 9/11," which has earned more than $100 million in just over a month set to become the most successful documentary ever, has been seen by more than 6 million people.

Moore has said he hopes the film will help oust the president from office in the Nov 2 election.

The film opened at a nearby cinema in Waco, Texas, last Friday.
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The film was made for the right reason (questioning whether or not Bush made the best decisions) but I think was presented in the wrong way. As much as I agree that Bush has taken the war on terror in wrong directions with time wasted in Iraq and has mishandled many situations, F911 has left me questioning Michael Moore's motives as well and I see them just as self-important as Bush's motives. What stood out the most for me was that it was obvious Moore's questions to the senators and their reactions were edited and out of context with each other. This film was made for one reason - to tug at the heart and cloud your judgement with emotional blackmail. As a matter of fact, I see no fundamental difference between this movie and The Passion Of The Christ.
 
Finally got around to seeing this after it became apparent that our local cinema complex decided to delay the films showing. It's still isn't on now, so I downloaded it instead . :\

Well despite being an anti-war liberal (but a fiscal conservative), I am over half way through this film and I have decided to give this doco a lowly 2 stars. Mainly because it just full of wishy-washy arguments and long periods of irrelevant chit-chat. Bowling for columbine had much more impact despite iraq and 9/11 being much bigger topics than gun control. I've heard much of politics that have gone over the last few years regarding the bush admin and as much as I desent them, this doco didn't really effect me. If I want to hear an intelligent documentary, give me the bbc anyday over michael moore. Despite the BBC islamic bias, they at least construct their arguments clearly and without blabbering on.
 
j22 said:
I agree with a lot of the link.

People Infact, I voted that the movie was a 3 out of 4 stars (and would say 3.5 if there were an option). I think people are misinterpreting my post with me actually bashing Moore or calling the guy a fat asshole. I'm not. Someone simply asked a question and I answered.

does this mean you actually watched the film that you've posted about numberous times;)
 
you'll probably notice a lot of the people on the board bash the film before seeing it, some probably never actually going to bother seeing it.

that's like saying "I don't like chocolate ice cream even if I've never eaten it" ?
 
i think moore is the new donquichote, he think he can change the outcome of an election with a movie :\ ...i wish him good luck, but i m afraid it wont help alot, the movie is probably "fun" though :)
 
keystroke said:
you'll probably notice a lot of the people on the board bash the film before seeing it, some probably never actually going to bother seeing it.


i agree with em, cuz to be honest ,i didnt c it either, i saw his previous movie and it was quite fun to watch, so I assume this one will be fun too, but the fact that he thinks he can change the election with a movie is a bridge 2 far me, in the end donquichote is a loser, he should eat less hamburgers ;)
 
This movie won't change the election. I mean how can you convince someone to vote for the other side unless you can provide clear and powerful reasoning? The funny this is moore doesn't get this concept, he simply rehashed his 'entertainment' formula from his previous films. If this hadn't been on a topic that I am heavily interested in, I would switched it off after little over half an hour!
 
Mike DMA said:
i agree with em, cuz to be honest ,i didnt c it either, i saw his previous movie and it was quite fun to watch, so I assume this one will be fun too, but the fact that he thinks he can change the election with a movie is a bridge 2 far me, in the end donquichote is a loser, he should eat less hamburgers ;)


if you didn't see the movie, how can you post comments about it ?

IMO, moore has at least made Americans think about what they do with their votes - regardless if it sways the election or not it will have some impact to the voters decisions after seeing it.
 
keystroke said:
if you didn't see the movie, how can you post comments about it ?

IMO, moore has at least made Americans think about what they do with their votes - regardless if it sways the election or not it will have some impact to the voters decisions after seeing it.

i didnt want to comment the movie it self, i just read interview with moore and saw him on tv and i strongly dislike his attitude....therefor i no longer wanna c his movies , no more for me :D

IMO moore hasnt done shit, except filling his pockets with money and eatin caviar in cannes ;)

peace :)
 
Raving Loony said:
This movie won't change the election. I mean how can you convince someone to vote for the other side unless you can provide clear and powerful reasoning? The funny this is moore doesn't get this concept, he simply rehashed his 'entertainment' formula from his previous films. If this hadn't been on a topic that I am heavily interested in, I would switched it off after little over half an hour!

i know that, u tell moore :D
 
keystroke said:
IMO, moore has at least made Americans think about what they do with their votes - regardless if it sways the election or not it will have some impact to the voters decisions after seeing it.

the thing is - it hasn't.

it hasn't convinced anyone to vote either way - mostly because of his lack of journalistic integrity. people here for the most part are still going to vote for whoever they were going to vote for before - and moore has done nothing save polarize more people.
 
michael said:
the thing is - it hasn't.

it hasn't convinced anyone to vote either way - mostly because of his lack of journalistic integrity. people here for the most part are still going to vote for whoever they were going to vote for before - and moore has done nothing save polarize more people.

michael usually i end up agreeing w/ you whether i want to or not but please explain to me how you're in any position to make that statement.
 
michael said:
about his lack of integrity or about how i don't think it's changed anyone's opinion?

the reason i don't think it's changed any votes is based on people i have spoken to. his lack of integrity speaks for itself.

exactly!! maybe i will go c the movie ( who knows?), but it wont change my attitude, it wont change my attitude about moore nor will it change my attitude about the election ( and i m not an american citizen so i dont need to worry bout the rights that r dervived from god, u knowwhat i mean? ;)
il wait until a friend of mine wants to rent it somewhere ( somewhere in the past perhaps?) i dont wanna pay and support moore :)
 
i think moore is the new donquichote, he think he can change the outcome of an election with a movie
not being there i don't see if it influences people in any way, but i wouldn't underestimate the power of a movie.
you'd be surprised to know how many votes jacques chirac won because of his likeable puppet on the tv show "les guignols"
 
vegan said:
not being there i don't see if it influences people in any way, but i wouldn't underestimate the power of a movie.
you'd be surprised to know how many votes jacques chirac won because of his likeable puppet on the tv show "les guignols"

maybe so, but if u r someone that decides to vote for someone on basis of a movie, well ( i hate to say this ) then i have my doubts about ur intelligence.

peace
 
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