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festival question (dunno if this is worth it's own thread)

Chesh

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If I go to a festival and do a bit of speed (standard amphet., not meth) on the first day, just enough to give me a bit of an energy/confidence boost for the last 5-6 hours of the night will that effect my 'roll' the next evening when I do MDMA. It'll probably just be a couple of adderalls or something, not a massive dose so I doubt my dopamine will be all gone the next day?

Just wondering, because I don't want to have a less magical time the second day.
 
if you want to keep yourself fresh for the perfect roll then i wouldnt bother doing any form of stims. alot would also depend on your willpower, speaking for myself i would often have the perfect plan for a gig or festival but if i have a few drinks then the plan is out the window and i start eating my stash.
 
id say it comes down to tolerance and your body. its hard to say how your body will react. but i think you should be ok as long as you dont over do it on the adderall
 
Amphetamine and MDMA have a heavy cross tolerance.


You're roll will be severely diminished due to lack of dopamine (which IS a very important part of a roll)... not to mention you'll probably be coming down the next day and probably won't even want to dose again



Roll the first day, if you still want something on the next then you can still do the speed if you want (but I don't recommend it.)




(standard amphet., not meth)


Glad you made that distinction... those two are completely different!!! 8)
 
if i just said speed then all the US posters would be like "shit man don't do meth you'll become an addict and die etc" so then i'd have to make a post explaining i don't mean meth.

i'll just do a little bit of ket + 2C-B (ket for banter at the camp, 2C-B for the raving side of things) the first day and do my MD on the second day
 
nah it's a 2 day one

why would 2C-B diminish it? it doesn't release serotonin, dopamine or noradrenaline. same with ket.
 
2C-B the day before a roll would diminish it too. Ketamine would probably have some effect as well.

It's a 3 day right? Well if you're so set on rolling the second night just take the other drugs on the third day

Really? I've never noticed any cross tolerance. If there is any then it's VERY minimal.
 
Release isn't the only thing that can cause cross tolerance. 2C-B causes over stimulation of serotonin receptors by binding to them, that's going to cause some cross tolerance, and will diminish your roll more than if you just waited.


Pretty much any drug taken the day before MDMA will make your roll less special, but 2C-B is pretty damn serotonergic, even if it doesn't release it.



Why don't you just roll on the first day?




Really? I've never noticed any cross tolerance. If there is any then it's VERY minimal.

IDK I've heard people say the opposite... I would think it would effect the psychedelic aspects of the high rather than the euphoria caused from 5-HT release though, so you might not notice it
 
2C-B works on the 5-HT2A receptors though while MDMA works on the 5-HT2B receptors so surely it should be alright? it'll only be 15mg of 2C-B too. i mean i've never heard of LSD ever diminishing anyone's roll the next day either.

the lineup in the first day isn't as good plus i'm usually knackered the day after doing MD so i don't want to drop on the first day.
 
id agree with Folley here. it seems ALOT of different drugs can fuck up a roll if you dont give it some time to get out your system. iv personally had A LOT of these interactions myself. to me its not worth wasting the M. if i just wait a bit for all the other drugs to get out of me ill have a goood one.
 
right then i'll go the first day sober with maybe a few bumps of ket every now and then
 
yeah just smoke some weed. folley is right about weed. i wish i had some right now actually lol. although its starting take a lot of weed for me to get hight now lol. but thats whole sepperate issue lol.
 
i wouldnt do anything except smoke weed personally. i would NOT want to risk messing up my roll lol.

i have a new rule for this actually. no chemicals in my body at all for 48 hours AT LEAST post roll.
 
i couldn't smoke weed at an EDM festival, too loud and too many people hyping. weed is for chilled scenarios imo.

i'll go for like 20-30mg bumps of ket that always has me feeling fresh haha
 
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