I'm not sure if this post will last long but I have a question. I have read a great deal of info on here re: Duragesic. I came away very uncertain. It is very conflictual IMO. I want to know if a 50mcg patch is going to floor me or not. I don't imagine so. I have done my share of other strong opiates. I have a low-moderate tolerance I suppose. Haven't tried "the Patch" yet though. I wonder if someone would be able to equate the max effects to a dose of Oxy. I get zoned on 90mg over a night in 3 30mg doses.
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uenjymyself
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there are a few charts floating around somewhere that should convert doses for oyu.
blacklabel
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Well 90mg of oxy in a night is a lot for me, I would think that a 50mcg/hr patch should do you nicely. I would eat it. That stickied thread says put it on but I think it's better eaten. To say a 100mcg/hr patch would last 15-45min eaten is a lie and definitely not harm reduction. It may not be the best way to use them but better than it describes.
So anyway, I would venture to roughly estimate that for me, half of a 25mcg/hr patch EATEN is equal to 20mg of oxy snorted, which is normally what I do unless I'm looking to get really fucked up, but I mix with alcohol often so try to keep both of them reasonable. It is not the same kind of buzz or and definitely not the rush of oxy, but as far as just being fucked up that's my estimate. So do your own math
So anyway, I would venture to roughly estimate that for me, half of a 25mcg/hr patch EATEN is equal to 20mg of oxy snorted, which is normally what I do unless I'm looking to get really fucked up, but I mix with alcohol often so try to keep both of them reasonable. It is not the same kind of buzz or and definitely not the rush of oxy, but as far as just being fucked up that's my estimate. So do your own math
uenjymyself
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don't eat them
PhreeX
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Honestly, I have taken these things every way you can.. eaten, smoked, injected.... given you inexperience with Duragesic why not WEAR it for a good 8-10 hours? If you're not happy then take it off and consume a small to moderate amount...
twgburst
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I wore the patch the other day and was really disapointed. I hear so many positive comments about them on bluelight, then I tried it and it sucked balls. I had it on for 3 days, and at first I thought it was cause my tolerence was too low, but it wasn't. I guess it's just too gradual, cause when I ate it, it was much more euphoric vs wearing it, when I got no euphoria only a headache/nausea. Did anyone else get the same thing from wearing it?
Well I do intend to wear it first due to inexperience with them. I hope I don't get the same reaction as twgburst but will let you know. The gradualness(sp?) of it is what throws me off. I'll give it a shot and if I don't like it I'll stick to Oxys and H. I have seen a few posts where people complain of headaches and nausea which defeats the purpose in my case. Also complicated by benzo addiction. Hard to judge. Well I think I'll just stick the F%^&ing thing on and see what happens. Never know otherwise I guess. Thanks for the responses.
blacklabel
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You have plenty of experience with other opiates still. I would eat half of it and that should get you quite fucked up. Only problem is you'd be left with the other half that I doubt you could do that night too, but you can save it in a piece of saran wrap (wrap up very carefully, the gel wont come out) then put that in a air tight container, maybe put that all into the refrig or something. It will save for the next day.
Haven't done it yet. Going to put it on Sarturday morning and wear it all day so by dinnertime I should be at or near full tilt. Tonight (Friday) going to chill with a few v's and some Oxy's. big test tomorrow. I think the wear for that length of time and then possible eat some if not satisfied will be my approach. Sounds most reasonable. Usually use v's or clonazepam daily so need to be somewhat careful with unfamiliar drug and interactions/potentiations. Feeling nice and mellow right now though. Took 20mg v and 25 mg oxy about half an hour ago. Who knows it may turn out to be my thing. From what I gather the wearing approach doesn't sound too euphoric but may synergize nicely with v's. Hope it works well because I like my little binges and the patch was cheap so it will save $$.
blacklabel
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No, they are very good. As I said twice in this thread I think you should've ate it. You would've felt it! I bet you could handle eating the whole thing even. I would've ate half then waited like 4 hours to eat the other half. I'm sure it would feel much more than 90mg oxy over the same period, maybe even too much for ya.
Well if I ever use those again I will try eating it I guess. Just wearing it I didn't ever really feel a thing. I guess I need 100mcg patch or something. I was hoping to get a long lasting opiate buzz. No go. They may, however, be usefull as a base opiate then use Oxys or something overtop and perhaps it would last longer. No wonder they are cheap.
jack555blue
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^^^<---- cheap?!
negrogesic
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^^Yes you shouldnt over pay for them. A 50ug/hr patch shouldnt cost much more than $20. If its only been 7 hours it has not been long enough to really kick in. Dont be stupid and take it off now. Keep it on, and make sure it doesnt fall off in bed. Duct tape it on if you have to. Of course your not going to feel much during the first 7 hours, why be disappointed?
uenjymyself
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^good advice negro i think all too often some users get imaptient think its not workign and redose and od.(i know iv been guilty of this qwith pod tea )and seriously iv done these and even with a tolernce wearing the mwas alwas my prefferd method just too risky eating and felt like a waste( of course i prefer a steady long high over a super strong quik high)
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