draven1321
Bluelighter
ok i got fentanyl 75mcg patches how much should i chew to get it to kick in faster and how long do i chew it for i dont want to chew up too much
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nAON
Bluelight Crew
75ug patches are gonna be total of about 12mg. A good way to measure it out is to cut it into quarters, then quarters again, this will give you 0.75mg pieces.
What sort of opi tolerance do you have? If you haven't used fent before, i'd probably only wanna use half of one of those pieces (.375mg), if you've done opis before then you could probably just do the whole .75mg. Chewing it is fairly standard practice, may be worth just leaving it pressed against your gums or under your tongue for some time before going at it with your teeth though.
What sort of opi tolerance do you have? If you haven't used fent before, i'd probably only wanna use half of one of those pieces (.375mg), if you've done opis before then you could probably just do the whole .75mg. Chewing it is fairly standard practice, may be worth just leaving it pressed against your gums or under your tongue for some time before going at it with your teeth though.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
I've also been wondering about this.
I can get a fent patch but I'm scared regarding oding on the stuff. I take about 100mg of oxy to get a good buzz going, could you suggest a safe starter dose?
I can get a fent patch but I'm scared regarding oding on the stuff. I take about 100mg of oxy to get a good buzz going, could you suggest a safe starter dose?
Swimmingdancer
Bluelight Crew
It's good to be cautious, fentanyl is very strong. I would say go with an extremely low starting dose, regardless of your previous opioid use. You can always take more if it's not enough. The initial buccal dose for fentanyl is normally 100 mcg. Then they wait at least 30min and if it wasn't enough take another 100mcg (and so on). And this is for people already tolerant to opioids, it's not normally used for people who are opioid naive. For anesthesia for surgery the starting dose (for buccal tablet) is 5 mcg/kg of body weight. This is how potent fentanyl is. The problem is that you really don't know how it's going to affect you, everyone is so different so it's hard to calculate an equivalent dose for another opioid. We don't really know how fast it's going to be absorbed by chewing or buccally administering a patch either. Even if conversions were accurate and didn't vary so much from person to person, misusing a patch is not going to equate to a normal buccal tablet, so it would be impossible to figure out the equivalent dose to 100mg oxy. Putting a patch in your cheek or chewing it is still likely to release the fentanyl more slowly than a tablet designed for buccal use, but the safest thing you can do is start super low.
The thing you need to do is find out exactly what type of patch you have and how much fentanyl total it contains. As nAON said, a 75mcg/hr patch is going to contain about 12mg of fentanyl. Although I have to disagree that a safe starting dose for an opioid naive person is 375mcg and that if you've done opioids before then you could do 750mcg. I would say an opioid naive person shouldn't be messing with fentanyl at all, and that just because someone has used opioids before does not mean they can handle 750mcg. For a person who normally takes oxy I would start with 1/16th or less of a 75mcg/hr patch. Better safe than sorry.
The thing you need to do is find out exactly what type of patch you have and how much fentanyl total it contains. As nAON said, a 75mcg/hr patch is going to contain about 12mg of fentanyl. Although I have to disagree that a safe starting dose for an opioid naive person is 375mcg and that if you've done opioids before then you could do 750mcg. I would say an opioid naive person shouldn't be messing with fentanyl at all, and that just because someone has used opioids before does not mean they can handle 750mcg. For a person who normally takes oxy I would start with 1/16th or less of a 75mcg/hr patch. Better safe than sorry.
I know this doesn't sound right but i've taken massive doses of fentanyl in the gel form squeezed out the patch. I've put at least 3-4mg worth at the very least at once against my gums and cheeks and let it abosrb and while I was extremely narcotically high at no time did i feel i was in danger of overdosing, I didn't even nod out. Maybe I just have the tolerance of an elephant because it takes abnormally huge doses to get me to nod.
I've smoked 3 full 100ug/hr actvis gel patches in 12 hours before, thats like 30mg fentanyl. I did nod from this, burned a hole into my keyboard with a cigarette it melted through the plastic keys. Dumped a glass of ice water all over my lap. Yea i messed up that day.
I've smoked 3 full 100ug/hr actvis gel patches in 12 hours before, thats like 30mg fentanyl. I did nod from this, burned a hole into my keyboard with a cigarette it melted through the plastic keys. Dumped a glass of ice water all over my lap. Yea i messed up that day.
Swimmingdancer
Bluelight Crew
^Everyone is so different so I do NOT recommend people do that. It sounds like you probably have a huge tolerance and also probably weren't getting all the fentanyl out of the patches. What got you high could kill someone else.
draven1321
Bluelighter
i also have a hi tollerance also but when ur out of ur oxys and can get patches which it was my 1st fent patch and heard so many ways to do it i appreciate all the info and for safety reasons if i did smoke da gel what would one reccomend starting out with how much of it
Crashing
Bluelighter
Personally, if i had a 100mg oxy tolerance id be chewing at least a quarter of that patch. But then again, i might not be the safest person.
Edit - For smoking, I would try a small dot about half the size of a BB. Like, half the size of an eye dropper droplet. You have to smoke it properly or youll waste it. Low heat at first until it starts boiling, then high heat and inhale quickly.
Edit - For smoking, I would try a small dot about half the size of a BB. Like, half the size of an eye dropper droplet. You have to smoke it properly or youll waste it. Low heat at first until it starts boiling, then high heat and inhale quickly.
draven1321
Bluelighter
me neither about being or doing the safest way better results foil or glass and thank u for letting me know on the amount cause was going to do bigger u just saved me thank u
Crashing
Bluelighter
Well, it might not be your perfect dose but you can always do more.
draven1321
Bluelighter
all i could get was da gel one this time
Doctor_Ew420
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I have a rather low tolerance to opiates myself, 20-30mg of oxy gets me going good. I have never seen a major risk with fentanyl so long as you know what dose is necessary. Start with a piece no bigger than your average hit of acid, if after 20 minute you get nothing from it, try that again. Nothing still? Wait an hour or so and double up. You should by this point have a good idea of where you need to be.
Personally I smoke my fent. It kind of grosses me out but it really is a small amount of material to smoke. I stick my desired piece onto some smooth foil. Lightly run a lighter under the foil until you see the patch shrivel up into a tiny ball. Wait a second and then pull that little ball of melted together plastic off of the foil. You will see that the sticky part is still on the foil which means the fent is on the foil. Then just smoke it like you would anything on foil. I am nodding before I blow out the smoke.
I know people who shoot their fent with lemon juice or vinegar. Smoking is clearly the lesser of two evils in that sense. Chewing is a total waste if you ask me. I would rather wear mine than chew it.
Personally I smoke my fent. It kind of grosses me out but it really is a small amount of material to smoke. I stick my desired piece onto some smooth foil. Lightly run a lighter under the foil until you see the patch shrivel up into a tiny ball. Wait a second and then pull that little ball of melted together plastic off of the foil. You will see that the sticky part is still on the foil which means the fent is on the foil. Then just smoke it like you would anything on foil. I am nodding before I blow out the smoke.
I know people who shoot their fent with lemon juice or vinegar. Smoking is clearly the lesser of two evils in that sense. Chewing is a total waste if you ask me. I would rather wear mine than chew it.