Opioids Fentanyl patch 100mcg no tolerance - microscopic dose?

[Californication]

To start I apologize for this threads redundancy, but I have read every thread on fent and low tolerance that I can find.

And hello to all! This is a first post from a long time lurker.

So yes, I understand how INCREDIBLY dangerous fent is and most BLers seem to agree either
1: don't touch fent without a hefty tolerance or
2: administer in obscenely small amounts

What I'm after is more input on number 2. Unfortunately the fent patch ill acquire later today will be 100mcg, so this further complicates and prioritizes administering in VERY small amounts.

I know the ROAs available are going to be dependent on the patch type. Ill make sure I have a thorough understanding of just what type (brand, strength) of patch I get before even considering a dose. Also I won't be using it (if at all) tonight, allowing further time to get this right.

From reading the only idea that I had that could be even called safe, is using a *pinhead* amount of gel (if its a gel patch) on a cutip sublingually.

Or maybe if its a non gel literally wearing like 1/30th or less of the patch?

I know inherently trying to safely dose something so powerful is difficult, but I'm going to have it and will want to use it. With extreme caution and patience I'm hopeful that there is a reasonable way to do this.

And yes, I understand fent is not the bees knees recreationally.

For a little background I'm an informal (never seen pain management) pain patient. Im young but have an arthritic spine, degenerative facet arthropathy, a mildly bulging disc, and a few other things.

For years I only used cannabis but have found (or been trapped by) the allure of opioids. I have a baby tolerance - could probably still get a mild buzz on 10mg of Percocet, hydro, etc - its hardly much.

I know many are going to advise just dont use it, but I'm pretty stubborn in the thought that with enough caution there's a way to do this.

Thanks a ton to any an all input, it is my health after all

 

[Felonious Monk]

Well, since you're trying to use it for pain you may actually be able to use it if its one of the Mylan tape ones (NOT gel).

These are just little strips that has the fentanyl spread evenly throughout. Therefore if you took the 100mcg/hr patch and cut it into 8 equal parts you would have 8 mini-strips that each have 12.5mcg/hr potential (the lowest Rx strength available).
Once you have your 12.5mcg/hr mini-strip you can just put this wherever you'd like on your body (arm, stomach, back, etc.) and enjoy the reduced dosage. This should be low enough dosage that you can SOMEWHAT safely wear it. If it starts to get too strong or becomes uncomfortable don't hesitate to take it off! You'll still feel it for a few hours after you take it off.

It will take 4+ hours before you feel anything and around 8 for the real effect, 12 for plateau. When I first put one on (a 12.5, Rx'd by my Dr), I put it on around 3pm, was fine for the evening, barely felt anything, but had to take it off the next afternoon and felt very sick. So just be careful, even doing only 1/8th of a Mylan.

I can't speak to gel patches at all but from what I understand if you have no tolerance you have no business with a 100mcg/hr gel patch.

 

[RustedHalo]

I'm pretty sure the patch you will be getting delivers 100 mcg/hour, so who knows how much is actually in the gel or delivery system in total? I think fooling around with fentanyl especially when you have 1. A "baby" tolerance and 2. No way of knowing how much you are getting is a really bad idea. It's one of the few things I never mess with because the danger:fun ratio is just not worth it. You said yourself that the recreational value is limited.

I think the real danger exists in the fact that a "safe" dose of fent is not going to give you much in the way of any pleasant effect or euphoria. So then a slightly impaired you decides to try just a bit more....

 

[oar9fi]

When I used to use a lot of opioids and was addicted, I would use whatever was available. Every time I got fentanyl it was either one of two outcomes:
1. Disappointed by the effects, or
2. Knocked out cold (and likely in danger of overdose or asphyxiation)

I made a few attempts with both pops & patches and concluded that there is no good for catching a buzz. Really it's not worth experimenting with. I'm sure that's not what you want to hear but that is pretty much the consensus with fent. If you're going to do it anyway make sure someone else is around in case of emergency.

It's not your health that's on the line, it's your life. Even if you survive an OD you can have severe brain damage due to hypoxia. But as you said, you're going to do what you want to do.

 

[Tommyboy]

I don't have any dosage recommendations for you, but what I can say it that you should have a 'babysitter' with you when you take the fent. You need to have someone that can call for help if need be.

When I used to use a lot of opioids and was addicted, I would use whatever was available. Every time I got fentanyl it was either one of two outcomes:
1. Disappointed by the effects, or
2. Knocked out cold (and likely in danger of overdose or asphyxiation)

I made a few attempts with both pops & patches and concluded that there is no good for catching a buzz. Really it's not worth experimenting with. I'm sure that's not what you want to hear but that is pretty much the consensus with fent. If you're going to do it anyway make sure someone else is around in case of emergency.

It's not your health that's on the line, it's your life. Even if you survive an OD you can have severe brain damage due to hypoxia. But as you said, you're going to do what you want to do.

Same here. Skips right over euphoria to knockout status.

 

[MartinFn]

"Baby tolerance", be careful, not like a baby...

Well Californication,
(Can i guess you're a Red Hot Chili Peppers fan, huh..?), I think that you should think that Felonious Monk said, he speaks right. Whatever you do, don't forget to be careful and safe!!!
And Yeah, welcome to bluelight, though with a "baby tolerance", you entry with a strong drug...anyway, again, be fuckin careful...

(Out of topic..) oar9fi, i really like your location...Rockmen lovers, drivin lamborghinis...Well, these were great fuckin times%), mate...today, heh,...



MartinFn

 

[Californication]

Haha you guessed right Martin, thanks for the words for caution - from everyone.

Sure as shit its a gel patch. PAR pharmaceuticals, labeled as 10mg total fentanyl content.

To rusted and oar - I definitely got the point that finding a recreational dose is pretty much impossible.
However, if I were to shoot for a "disappointing" result how would I go about doing that?

Id be a liar to admit I wouldn't love to use this for a good buzz, but seeing as there is a massive amount of pain killing opiates in this single patch - I'd be a fool not to use it for actual pain management.

In fact based on the reading I did before this thread, I thought that fent seemed far more applicable to pain management. Most people can't get the 'right' dose and even when they do, it lacks euphoria as aforementioned by y'all.

I had a thought, what about applying a minuscule amount to my dermal surface? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but its my understanding that fentanyl has a higher sublingual BA than dermal BA? Theoretically it would further abate the risk of OD and perhaps provide a little pain relief?

I know these are tricky questions, and I thank you guys for having patience with a topic that is pretty well established and frankly downright dangerous.

I have patience.. and a few 10mg oxys with soma so I'm groovy for now %) but would still love to find a way to use this sucker for pain.

Much love
~Medicalifornication

 

[brutus]

There's very little margin of error with fent. The point at which you feel some very mild euphoria is damn close to the point that you overdose. It is an extremely dangerous drug and I wouldn't touch it again with a ten foot pole. We aren't trying to use scare tactics or "just say no." type approaches, but there's no safe way to abuse fentanyl.

 

[chiboxone]

I've screwed around with every opi you can imagine and Fent is by far the most frightening. I used to get a 100mcg patch a month. My roa was smoking. I even made a special Fent pipe out of a mini metal funnel so I wouldn't lose any smoke. It's the only time I think I came close to killing myself. I took a big hit and then... Woke up in a heap. Couldn't stand or walk. Had to crawl to a sink and just poured water on myself for 15 minutes until I could actually stand.

So, yeah, have a sitter if you're gonna try it.