I've got 3 ampuls of fentanyl sublimaze and each contains 100mcg of fentanyl in 2ml of solution. On the container it says for IV or IM use, but my question is, can I use it orally? If so what would be a good dose for someone with no opiate tolerance? If I have to bang it, how much should I use for that? Thanks for any help you guys can give.
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Aja909
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Oopsz.. if you click on his profile it would say "post #1"
Nark : Opiates can be dangerous if you don't know what a reasonable amount is. You have to take into account your body weight among other things.. then you also may be allergic to it.. example:
I can do heroin (opiate)
but not Oxycontin (opiate)
why? probably because one is stronger than the other or I'm allergic to it
If you're going to try (whatever) opiate start out with a very small amount. I can't tell you how much because everyone reacts a little different.
One final piece of advice: Have some people around when you're gonna do it in case something goes wrong
Have fun and be safe!
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[This message has been edited by Aja909 (edited 25 November 2001).]
Nark : Opiates can be dangerous if you don't know what a reasonable amount is. You have to take into account your body weight among other things.. then you also may be allergic to it.. example:
I can do heroin (opiate)
but not Oxycontin (opiate)
why? probably because one is stronger than the other or I'm allergic to it
If you're going to try (whatever) opiate start out with a very small amount. I can't tell you how much because everyone reacts a little different.
One final piece of advice: Have some people around when you're gonna do it in case something goes wrong
Have fun and be safe!
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indaloo.homestead.com
"On something, somewhere at all times"
"I was always stereotyped as a lost cause--> so I became one and dealt with the side effects--> now people bang on my door and call me at random hours just to see if I'm alive and stuff"
[This message has been edited by Aja909 (edited 25 November 2001).]
Oopsz: I think 50ug would be a pretty heavy dose for IV. Probably a good idea to start with 10ug if your going to inject. Otherwise you can take fentanyl oraly, probably start with 10-50ug oral. If you so wish you could let the solution dry and be left with a very minute amount of powder in which you could snort or smoke. Because of the minute amount of substance you need I would advise against snorting it. However if you wanted to measure out some liquid and put it in say a light bulb and vaporize it and inhale the vapour that might work well.
I've decided I'm gonna IV about 10mcg with the help of a friend who has some experience with needles (He has to give himself allergy shots
).
Now that I've decided to bang it, I have a question about some comments I've seen concerning IV fentanyl, such as this:
Also, I've read that the effects of IV fentanyl only last about 30 to 60 minutes. If this is true, when is it safe to take another dose and should I use the same amount the second time around?
Thanks for the help
[This message has been edited by Narc (edited 26 November 2001).]
Now that I've decided to bang it, I have a question about some comments I've seen concerning IV fentanyl, such as this:
Is this something to genuinely be concerned about, and if so, how should I go about injecting it?
Also, I've read that the effects of IV fentanyl only last about 30 to 60 minutes. If this is true, when is it safe to take another dose and should I use the same amount the second time around?
Thanks for the help
[This message has been edited by Narc (edited 26 November 2001).]
I wouldn't be concerned about that. Especialy not with 10ug. Now if you had a high tolerence and were going to have to inject 100ug. That is a different matter.
As soon as the effects wear off you may inject the same dose again. Be aware that you will start developing a tolerence and need to slowly increase dosage.
FordPrefect
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Fentanyl doesnt dissolve in water. Your gonna have to use vinegar and heat.
zorn
Bluelighter
OK, lessee....
Don't evaporate off the liquid. Deus, do you know how little 100ug is? Think a mote of dust...
It comes in ampules, it's actually meant to be injected... inject it! If you want to smooth out the experience, IM it, but might as well go IV.
10ug is very little, I doubt you will feel much of anything from it. You will probably, I am guessing, want the full 100ug, which is the equivalent of 10mg IV morphine. I would recommend injecting 1mL very slowly, to make sure it's not too much... then hit the other half if you want.
It will only last an hour or two, unfortunately. Clinically injections are recommended every 1/2 hour (if not just a constant infusion.) Nothing you can do about this except to take more.
-Zorn
Don't evaporate off the liquid. Deus, do you know how little 100ug is? Think a mote of dust...
It comes in ampules, it's actually meant to be injected... inject it! If you want to smooth out the experience, IM it, but might as well go IV.
10ug is very little, I doubt you will feel much of anything from it. You will probably, I am guessing, want the full 100ug, which is the equivalent of 10mg IV morphine. I would recommend injecting 1mL very slowly, to make sure it's not too much... then hit the other half if you want.
It will only last an hour or two, unfortunately. Clinically injections are recommended every 1/2 hour (if not just a constant infusion.) Nothing you can do about this except to take more.
-Zorn
100ug for a IV injection all at once for a opiate virgin? I don't know, that sounds pretty heavy. It doesn't matter that 100ug isn't phisically very much. Fentanyl is a very potent drug. And I'd rather have him err on the side of caution and inject too little than to inject too much and die.
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Yes, I know, which is exactly why I advised against it.
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Chef ketamine
Bluelighter
Believe me any small hospital ampules, are for one dose, and "IF" 100mcg of fent is equal to 10mg of morphine iv, then take the whole thing, Fent does not cause as much respitory depression as other opiates. even if your an opiate virgn fentnyl is difrent, it doesnt casue the same intoxicationm it is more of a SUPER tingily head high, only thing is your soo high you dont even know. Good luck
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Sounds like a good idea...100ug is definatly too much for someone that is not experienced with opiates. We don't need a opiate related death attributed to these boards. 50ug is a good dose, but your definatly right in injecting it slowly. Maybe even inject half, and then wait to see if you need more, maybe 30-60 seconds.
zorn
Bluelighter
The reason I think 100ug is a good dose is because it is equivalent to 10mg IM morphine, which is fun but not all that much, even for a nontolerant user. See http://www.globalrph.com/narcoticonv.htm for an example table.
DirtyLikaRat
Bluelighter
this prolly wont help ya much.. But I was prescribed fetynal in patch form.. 50mg patches.. I didnt like them much. Im actually voluntarilly stopped usage, now im back on my second love... Percoset with oxycodone. Miracle drug... Takes away the pain and puts lead in your pencil *wink *wink.
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Yes, you can take it orally, however, the effects won't be nearly as strong as if you use a needle (IM it, any moron can dothat and it doesn't hurt) ..
DON'T EVAPORATE IT TO GET POWDER! This is 100ug of powder, you wouldn't even notice it...
But yeah, orally is DEFINITLY an active way to take it... I would say take about half a vial first, if it doesn't do ya, take the rest... honestly though, you could probably handle 100ug orally....
DISCLAIMER: In response to this post I have given advice about the dosing of a drug. I do not know your tollerance, I do not know the purity of the drug, and what I SUGGESTED might be enough to buzz me, but kill you! I encourage you to do your own research before you actually inject any of said drug!! [macro disclaimer.dose]
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DON'T EVAPORATE IT TO GET POWDER! This is 100ug of powder, you wouldn't even notice it...
But yeah, orally is DEFINITLY an active way to take it... I would say take about half a vial first, if it doesn't do ya, take the rest... honestly though, you could probably handle 100ug orally....
DISCLAIMER: In response to this post I have given advice about the dosing of a drug. I do not know your tollerance, I do not know the purity of the drug, and what I SUGGESTED might be enough to buzz me, but kill you! I encourage you to do your own research before you actually inject any of said drug!! [macro disclaimer.dose]
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)