Opioids Fentanyl blotters (500 UG) - NOOB.

[muntedmunter]

Hi - I posted in the Fentanyl thread but never received a clear answer so I will try here.

I have with me a few blotters... Fentanyl Blotters containing 500 UG in each one - I trust the guy who made these up due to positive feedback, so with that said, lets assume they contain 500 UG.

I have never had any opioids before, my tolerance would be 0. I once had surgery 5 years ago and was given some morphine after it and I had one of those oxy pills a year ago, that's about it.

Anyway... I am an idiot and am going to take these blotters anyway even after reading that they're dangerous and someone without any tolerance should stay away from these.

With that said: How will I be able to take these blotters in a safe way that doesn't get me sick and allows me to achieve that high everyone talks about? Any help would be REALLY appreciated.

They're just sitting here and I am getting impatient and am keen to try them out.

Cheers

MM

 

[sekio]

I have never had any opioids before, my tolerance would be 0. I once had surgery 5 years ago and was given some morphine after it and I had one of those oxy pills a year ago, that's about it.

So you have had opioids before, then...

Remember that fentanyl's analgesic potency is somewhere around 80x more powerful than morphine and the difference between a painkilling dose and a lethal dose is even smaller than for something like e.g. heroin.

The best option is to not fuck around with them.

 

[Nicholai]

That's like 10-20 times what you would need to start with to get really fucked up. I think 500ug would kill someone with no tolerance if you cheeked that.

 

[Bliss26]

Don't do it,
I think you would OD and die.
If you really cannot stop yourself, perhaps dividing them into smaller pieces would prevent OD but it's still really risky as the blotter coverage could be very uneven. Plus you don't even know if it's truly 500UG.

 

[Freon]

Definitely do not take 500ug of Fent without a tolerance. That's just asking for it.

 

[yteek]

I'm not sure I follow the point of this thread, you ask for a safe way, but then also state you're going to take them regardless, well you won't have your cake and eat it too in this scenario.

 

[muntedmunter]

It's harm reduction so if someone on this site is going to do something stupid anyway it should be clear that they're given the safest instructions for doing that imo even if it's advised not

Don't do it,
I think you would OD and die.
If you really cannot stop yourself, perhaps dividing them into smaller pieces would prevent OD but it's still really risky as the blotter coverage could be very uneven. Plus you don't even know if it's truly 500UG.

Okay - I am going to cut each blotter into 20 little pieces which should give me 25 UG each... on the first bit of paper I will cut that into 2 to try it out with each one giving me 12.5 UG. That's the safest way to go about this I take it?

Any other precautions I should take? What are the signs I should look out for if I am getting in trouble? thanks again

Remember that fentanyl's analgesic potency is somewhere around 80x more powerful than morphine and the difference between a painkilling dose and a lethal dose is even smaller than for something like e.g. heroin..

hmmmmmm do you know what the lethal dose could be? So I can just go way way under that.

 

[Bliss26]

It's impossible to say bc we each have different tolerance as well as subtler nuances like weight, food eaten etc.
So many OD deaths seem to come from Fent. Pls be super careful, and remember not to combine w any other sedatives like sleeping pills or benzos etc.

In the interest of HR I would also recommend having a sitter or at least someone who knows what you've just taken and can call 911 if needed. As well as wait between each piece of blotter.

 

[Bliss26]

I hate to beat a dead horse here but going from zero opiates to 500 of Fentanyl is ????.
What about trading with someone for some oxycodone?

Edit: looks like 500 ug = 0.5mg which would equal what? 500 mcg? And 50mcg is a therapeutic dose for an opiate naive person. So cut into 10 pieces, take no more than one.
Someone pls check my math.

 

[muntedmunter]

Righto - thanks for the advise everyone.

I am going to cut each blotter into 10 little bits then for the first bit I will cut that into two so it will be 25 MCG/UG after that first little bit I have an idea what I am messing with.

After reading about the ODs due to fen I wouldn't be comfortable trading these with someone who doesn't know the danger of these and because these cost some cash I don't want to chuck them out either ha so hopefully I can work out the right dose to achieve a good high and I think that will be approx 25 to 50 MCG

I won't have a sitter with me but will keep a look out for my breathing and have a phone next to me so I can call 000 should anything go wrong... I'll be doing this tomorrow, will update thread.

 

[Bliss26]

Maybe have a note beside you too with what's in your system. ODs can be quick and this way they knowASAP what they're dealing with if you pass out right after dialling.
Remember to wait a bit between dosing!
Stay safe!

 

[muntedmunter]

Found this site: http://www.alfredhealth.org.au/Assets/Files/OpioidConversionChart2007.pdf

Basically 25UG of fentanyl per hour is the same as 40 - 70 mg of oxycodone / 24 hrs and according to erowid (https://www.erowid.org/pharms/oxycodone/oxycodone_dose.shtml) for someone with no tolerance it says 30 - 40mg of oxy is a large does.

With that said... if I had 12.5 UG to start off with it would be the same as 15 - 40mg of oxy.

Feel pretty safe now should that chart be right.... SO each blotter is a square that contains 500 UG. Cut into 40 even bits and I have 12.5 UG approx in each.

That's the safest I can possibly be now will update tomorrow when I try this out... I am actually happy I researched these and got help from the members here because these were just given to me to try out with no warning at all just "much like oxyx bro! warm feeling, bliss, you will love them!". I had to ask how many UG they were, ask others who had them from this dude their experiences, post on the forums, read reviews, threads, OD, conversion charts, do the math umm that's it... Had I not done that, I would of just cut it in half and went from there.

I've sent that guy a text and told him to read some stuff about these just incase he gives them to another opiate naive person

 

[phatass]

There's a high chance that it's a-fent or b-fent (which are 20-30 times less potent than fentanyl), because even the highest dose transdermal patches are only like 125ug approx i think, and that's released over 24 hours.... So putting 500ug of fent on a blotter would b suicidal for anyone to take...

 

[silas GUY]

dude just trade um for something like oxy ! the fact that your asking on here is showing that you are new to the opiate high ! and if so do yourself a favor and throw them away or sell um ! the high is nothing compared to what you will be doing in a year from now if you continue down the opiate rabbit hole. good luck be safe.

 

[ComfortablyNumb95]

Maybe you could cut the blotter in 10 pieces, soak one in a liquud in which fent dissolves and make a nasal spray or a blotter with that.. fentanyl doesn't last long so i'd assume the come up is rapid too: with a nasal spray you could get to the high you're looking for and keep it RELATIVELY safe.
But then you have to consider the fact that you aren't even sure you've got 500 ug let alone if they're spread evenly.
My advice would b to sell them or just leave em alone and buy some less potent/dangerous opiate (or better yet to avoid opiates altogheter)

 

[mostly-human]

Fucking lol @ going from no opiate tolerance to taking Fentanyl. Seriously - just.. wow.

Anyway - loling aside, since you can't guarantee the even spread across your blotter, I would suggest mixing it in water and measuring the water to get your dose.

 

[CreepyLegz]

Fent is my drug of choice. I started wearing the gel patches until I tried smoking it on foil.. That stuff is strong and no joke. I've passed out on a couple bb sized hits when I first started.. It comes in micrograms because it's so strong. It's so easy to do too much. I smoked a lil and the full effects didn't kick in for 15 minutes. That's when I passed out and thought I was dying. Don't try this stuff like it's a vicodin. This will creep up on you and knock your ass out

 

[Rybee]

OP you're an idiot.

Don't do it.

 

[Jesusgreen]

500ug is an insanely high amount to be put on a single blotter if it's actual Fentanyl. That's a huge dosage unless you have a very large tolerance already, and even if you do, still, that's still insanely high, and a small error in his blotter laying technique (which is common, since drying blotter often results in the solution pooling in hotspots) could mean you take double or triple the dose making overdosing incredibly likely. You'd have to have an incredibly tolerance for 0.5mg to even be a remotely sane possibility.

If this is actual Fentanyl then you'd be crazy to try it really. Are you sure it wasn't a Fentanyl *analogue* that your dealer was putting on blotter?

You see there's several analogues of Fentanyl, many of which are legal on the Research Chemical market in a lot of countries. Some examples include Acetyl-Fentanyl and Butyr-Fentanyl. Now see Acetyl-Fentanyl and Butyr-Fentanyl commonly come on 0.5mg and even 1mg blotters, and it's a reasonable dosage for them, one that isn't going to kill you unless you're allergic. If it's one of those, then I'd find specifically which analogue it is, what the dosage is, and try and obtain powder from your guy - then use liquid measurement to dose, starting from a fraction of the smallest possible dosage and working up until you hit your sweet spot, with Fentanyl analogues there is NO room for messing around and making mistakes.

 

[muntedmunter]

No time to reply to everything atm but I was told they are "500ug of Fentanyl HCl".

Is that the same as Acetyl-Fentanyl?

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Also

"Blotters are designed for sublingual administration (left under the tongue). Bioavailability is only 50% compared with IV which is 100%. "