chaseconroe
Bluelighter
I wanted to know the simplest process to go Thru to prep a fent patch for iv it's mylan brand with gel inside.
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Fent patch 75mcg
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Swimmingdancer
Bluelight Crew
It's really not safe to inject the patches. For one, injecting gel is not good for you, for 2, you can easily overdose.
Please consider other ROAs. If you aren't happy with using it as directed at least try things like heating it while it's on your skin, or putting a small piece inside your cheek before considering IV. Most people who've tried making a solution for injection out of these patches say it wasn't even worth the risks and didn't give them a rush or a better high.
If you fully understand all the risks and absolutely insist on doing it anyway, do a Google search and go with the page that looks the most professional. You will need a micron filter, and some other supplies like ascorbic acid. And make sure you start with an extremely tiny amount - your patch should have around 12.375mg of fentanyl in it which is WAY WAY too much to inject, maybe you could make up a solution and measure it out so you can measure how many units equals how many mcgs of fentanyl. And please don't do this alone, especially the first time.
The only threads I've been able to find here on BL about this topic are all about why NOT to inject fentanyl patches.
Please consider other ROAs. If you aren't happy with using it as directed at least try things like heating it while it's on your skin, or putting a small piece inside your cheek before considering IV. Most people who've tried making a solution for injection out of these patches say it wasn't even worth the risks and didn't give them a rush or a better high.
If you fully understand all the risks and absolutely insist on doing it anyway, do a Google search and go with the page that looks the most professional. You will need a micron filter, and some other supplies like ascorbic acid. And make sure you start with an extremely tiny amount - your patch should have around 12.375mg of fentanyl in it which is WAY WAY too much to inject, maybe you could make up a solution and measure it out so you can measure how many units equals how many mcgs of fentanyl. And please don't do this alone, especially the first time.
The only threads I've been able to find here on BL about this topic are all about why NOT to inject fentanyl patches.
teological
Bluelighter
I have heard that Fent is one of the safest opiates out there if used as directed when prescribed to a patient. I have also heard that if it is messed with, it is one of the most DEADLY.
It is dangerous when abused through oral use (gel inside the cheek..etc) as it builds up slowly, so the user does more and by the time they realise (if they aren't nodding out already) they are a little too high 40 minutes in, too late. Can not imagine the dangers of IV use, especially in regards to the prep of a gel not meant to be IV'd?
It is dangerous when abused through oral use (gel inside the cheek..etc) as it builds up slowly, so the user does more and by the time they realise (if they aren't nodding out already) they are a little too high 40 minutes in, too late. Can not imagine the dangers of IV use, especially in regards to the prep of a gel not meant to be IV'd?
Crashing
Bluelighter
Fentanyl gel is a base first of all. But anyway, you really should only be shooting fentanyl if you have an accurate MG digi. You squeeze all gel out onto a plate and hit it with a fan until it's all evaporated and you are left with the deadly-as-fuck film. Scrape it up so it's in a tiny pile. Look at the pile of powder and realize you can probably strike dead many times... From here...
Determine actual dosage of fentanyl in entire patch (NOT what it releases per hour, rather the total amount!)
Calculate the dosage of of fentanyl that will get you high with this: http://www.globalrph.com/narcoticonv.htm
Now, place entire pile onto digi scale and divide the total weight by the milligram dosage in the entire patch (says somewhere on the label the mg/patch)
---It should be close to the same, but probably wont be. If it weighs more or less than the actual amount of fentanyl then you have to make some math calculations to find out your dosage this is tricky and can be fatal----
Now check it out man... if you IV 4mg of hydromorphone to get high, you need .25mg of fent. How the fuck are you gonna weigh that? Eyeballing is pretty dangerous with this stuff, so hopefully you have a really high tolerance like a 16mg hydromorphone IV per shot tolerance... Then you could bang 1mg of fent.
1mg fent = 320mg morphine = 16mg hydromorphone.
Then you have to prepare it with maybe 1:3 vinegar or lemon juice to water, since the fent is a base.
EDIT: - - - You should only consider this, again, with a very very high tolerance to opiates. Smoking a tiny drop of this shit will give you the same if not more of a rush than IV Heroin so IVing it is kind of pointless.
Determine actual dosage of fentanyl in entire patch (NOT what it releases per hour, rather the total amount!)
Calculate the dosage of of fentanyl that will get you high with this: http://www.globalrph.com/narcoticonv.htm
Now, place entire pile onto digi scale and divide the total weight by the milligram dosage in the entire patch (says somewhere on the label the mg/patch)
---It should be close to the same, but probably wont be. If it weighs more or less than the actual amount of fentanyl then you have to make some math calculations to find out your dosage this is tricky and can be fatal----
Now check it out man... if you IV 4mg of hydromorphone to get high, you need .25mg of fent. How the fuck are you gonna weigh that? Eyeballing is pretty dangerous with this stuff, so hopefully you have a really high tolerance like a 16mg hydromorphone IV per shot tolerance... Then you could bang 1mg of fent.
1mg fent = 320mg morphine = 16mg hydromorphone.
Then you have to prepare it with maybe 1:3 vinegar or lemon juice to water, since the fent is a base.
EDIT: - - - You should only consider this, again, with a very very high tolerance to opiates. Smoking a tiny drop of this shit will give you the same if not more of a rush than IV Heroin so IVing it is kind of pointless.
chaseconroe
Bluelighter
Ok, taking all that into account is it as easy just putting it on foil and chasing it to smoke it?
Swimmingdancer
Bluelight Crew
I would not start with the amount that some online drug converter says will get you "high", I would start with a very very tiny test shot. Drug converters are notoriously unreliable and don't account for incomplete cross-tolerance, differences between individuals, etc. If you do a super-tiny amount first you can better gauge your dose. It's always better to do too little than too much.
No, preparing a fentanyl patch for relatively "safe" injection is more difficult and time consuming than putting in on foil and smoking it. Not that putting it on foil and smoking it is good for you either, but surely it's gotta be better for you than injecting it. Unless you were asking whether or not you could follow the above procedure and then smoke it?
Crashing
Bluelighter
It's actually a clinical dosage converter, not a recreational one. And provides the cross-tolerance range input field with a suggested usual range.
For smoking it... put a tiny tiny tiny drop on foil. I really don't know what your tolerance is, so I can't make any sort of dosage/size recommendation. All I know is that the size of about a BB is a pretty freaking strong dose and might kill someone. It's really hard to tell.
Anyway, you get the straw in your mouth over the foil. Light the lighter about 12" below the bead under the foil and slowly slowly raise lighter until the bead starts bubbling, raise a little more it sizzles, then raise it right up to it and inhale fast n furious.
The vaporization actually requires this technique to get the full dose in my experience. I've seen people waste a shit ton by burning it too quickly or not hot enough.
So you're basically cautiously heating it until it boils, then once it boils apply full heat (about 1/2 inch below foil).
For smoking it... put a tiny tiny tiny drop on foil. I really don't know what your tolerance is, so I can't make any sort of dosage/size recommendation. All I know is that the size of about a BB is a pretty freaking strong dose and might kill someone. It's really hard to tell.
Anyway, you get the straw in your mouth over the foil. Light the lighter about 12" below the bead under the foil and slowly slowly raise lighter until the bead starts bubbling, raise a little more it sizzles, then raise it right up to it and inhale fast n furious.
The vaporization actually requires this technique to get the full dose in my experience. I've seen people waste a shit ton by burning it too quickly or not hot enough.
So you're basically cautiously heating it until it boils, then once it boils apply full heat (about 1/2 inch below foil).
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/554745-Fentanyl-1st-timer
Bunch of threads about fent/smoking fent/fent first times already, search engine is your friend.
Bunch of threads about fent/smoking fent/fent first times already, search engine is your friend.
chaseconroe
Bluelighter
i have the worst luck finding threads i need.
Lynx2525
Greenlighter
I read all of the info I could find on slamming this stuff on this and a few other info sites. I started with a minuscule amount. I soon discovered I must have an incredible opioid tolerance as I'm ok with it. THAT DOES NOT MEAN YOU WILL BE! If you must try this, BE SMART about it!!! Start very small. Also, It really sucks going through my low-dose patches so quickly too, so weigh your options. However I would like to know this: I've been using that lemon concentrate that comes in a lemon shaped container. I've just learned vinegar works well too. Can anyone tell me what the better of the two is and the best ratio including how much water and how long to heat up?
AGAIN - I DO NOT endorse this!!! Thanks for any info. I accept PM's.
AGAIN - I DO NOT endorse this!!! Thanks for any info. I accept PM's.
Swimmingdancer
Bluelight Crew
Ew, neither of these are a safe idea. Especially the lemon juice. It can make you go blind, give you fungal or bacterial infections, etc. Get some citric acid or pure ascorbic acid, please. If you are too lazy to find some citric or ascorbic, use distilled white vinegar and boil it before use.
As for how much acidifier, start with a very small amount and add more if necessary.
I hope you are filtering this?
Lynx2525
Greenlighter
Yes, heating/cooking and filtering. I haven't been too lazy to look for citric or as ascorbic acid, just can't find it locally. Thank you so much for the info!
Swimmingdancer
Bluelight Crew
^Sorry, I shouldn't have said "if you are too lazy". That didn't come across very nice. I just meant that it should not usually be THAT difficult to find citric acid - often people just don't want to be bothered trying to find it or are too impatient. But even if you can't get some right away it's a good idea to have some on hand for the future if you think you will be needing it again. You could call major grocery stores asking if they stock it (it's used in canning fruit), or home-brew shops. Definitely stop using lemon juice though.
Lynx2525
Greenlighter
Thank you SO much! All of your info has been extremely helpful! Yes, I am impatient, but I don't want to go blind! I found some magnesium citrate; is that acceptable? If not I will keep looking! Again, Thank you 
Swimmingdancer
Bluelight Crew
No, magnesium citrate won't work, it is completely different. Has to be citric acid or ascorbic acid (must be pure, vitamin C that contains other ingredients would not be good). Did you trying calling grocery stores or home-brew shops and asking if they have citric acid? (you can tell them it's used in canning fruit). Also, I'm not sure where you live, but if you live in Europe needle exchanges should carry packets of sterile citric or ascorbic acid (some in North America might carry them too). If you can't find either use distilled white vinegar and boil it before use. Vinegar is more damaging to the veins than citric or ascorbic though.