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Feeling really whacked out after MDMA

BigTurkey

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How long does it take to return to normal after doing mdma? In the past I've always fel uncoordinated and unfocused as I came down, but in the morning, I've been fine. After last night, however, I feel like I havn't been able to concentrate even the smallest amount; composing this message is somewhat difficult. I did do more than I usually do last night. Is it possible I did something permanent? Or is it just that the increased dose brings an increased hangover? How long should I expect this to last? I'm a little scared =[ in two years with a heroin habit I never felt mentally whacked out afterwards, just sick and tired and sad. In fact, I'd go so far as to say I'm very scared. The most concerning thing is that I am having a little trouble reading, which has never happened before.
 
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Try to relax bro.. Keep your mind busy on other shit and try not to think about it.. No need to be worried, I really really doubt you did any permant damage.. The most I have felt fucked up after rolling was 3days, then I was all good.. Drink lots of water and give the body and mind some time to heal.. Hope you back to normal in no time!
 
You will be fine man. Mind over matter. Definatly need some good food, vitamins and excersise. Yes it can last for a few days, but will gt better. Guaranteed.
 
That it might be like this never even crossed my mind before doing it. With a couple years of heroin use, and how much you hear about how dope wd's are the worst thing there is, and how MDMA isn't addictive, I thought it'd be totally fine. The reading thing is already much better, as is the coordination, but I've never been this unhappy in my life.
You guys are a lot more experienced than I am though, so hopefully what you've said is right and I'll be feeling back to normal in a few days. What I'm worried might be the problem is that what is normal for me is pretty terrible by regular standards. I'm worried I've seen how happy people live and now I have to know I can't have that without chemicals. On the other hand, I know there's a temporary seritonin (sp) imbalance going on, and I hope that's all it is.
 
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I'm worried I've seen how happy people live and now I have to know I can't have that without chemicals. On the other hand, I know there's a temporary seritonin (sp) imbalance going on, and I hope that's all it is.
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I obviously can't say for certain, but I believe you hit the nail on the head. Right now you're sober in the sense that you came down from the MDMA roll, but you still aren't 100% your normal self until serotonin levels are restored to normal. In the mean time any rationalizing you make about your overall/permanent happiness is likely at least a bit misguided/impaired. Try giving it a week and see if you still feel that way.

As for the first sentence I quoted, trust me... No one on earth feels the way you did when you rolled in their day to day life. :) If they did, that in of itself would mean they would no longer feel that good because it'd become their baseline/normal and what they were used to.
 
Tech, yeah, I didn't mean that people feel that good normally, but I guess what I meant was, when I go from rolling to sober, its a lot farther to fall than for most people. I've been through a lot of stuff, and not an overdose, not any withdrawal, not the worst personal issues have made me feel this bad. Does everybody get this hopeless after? If so I couldn't imagine it being as popular as it is.
 
It is believe it or not normal for SOME people to feel that way. You are in the minority, or at least for people who don't use E/MDMA too frequently, too high of doses, or too much life-time accumulated use but it certainly happens. I know several people who enjoyed the roll but won't repeat because they had similar after-effects that they found severe enough to never touch it again. But then I know yet more who will continue using it and didn't have such a harsh come-down/after effect. This was your first roll right? If so I think you should find your third day post-roll will bring about the biggest improvements (don't be scared if day two is actually WORSE than day one, this is very common).
 
No, this was not the first time, it was maybe the sixth; it was also the second time in two weeks, and it was a high dose (although I didn't realise it at the time).

This is the first time its been this bad; usually I feel a little cracked out and gloomy for the first 2 hours of comedown and then I feel really relaxed for the few days after, with the only damage to my concentration being that I usually can't play video games for about 3 days.

However, I'm feeling a lot better now, just really, really sad, but even thats better than it was 16 hours ago. I really hope I'm just unable to enjoy this very enjoyable experience.
 
Who ever said mind over matter is retarded, I mean i used to think that too until i realized its not that easy. This is changing chemical levels in the brain you cant just think differently these chemicals make your mind.

But OP i feel how you feel, you'll be alright i mean when i used to do caps i would feel like shit the whole next week and then usually start the process again when it got to the weekend. Don't do it every weekend or you'll create some what permanent damage. But in your case it will heal, keep in mind full ecstasy repair takes around 3 months so if you've done a large amount of caps or a large amount over a short period of time take a few month break.
 
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But in your case it will heal, keep in mind full ecstasy repair takes around 3 months so if you've done a large amount of caps or a large amount over a short period of time take a few month break.
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Are we talking gradual over those three months? It was quite a lot spread out over the first and third days of a three-day period, probably around ten doses in total.
 
Yeah dude you overdid it pretty hard, I'd say even someone with zero drug history altogether would be feeling pretty shitty after a binge like that.

Personally I keep it to one or two doses, over a 2-3 hour period tops, no more than once every 3-4 weeks. I can't personally recommend dosing any more often than that.
 
Yeah, I'm gonna take a month or two off of everything except maybe weed, but even that doesn't feel too desirable. I'm not feeling so down anymore, at this point I'm just experiencing what feels like a massive wine hangover.

For reference, I took ~20mg OC on zero tolerance last night to put myself out for the night, and I woke up with nothing but an upset stomach. Seems to have done the trick, I feel like my old self, albeit a bit intoxicated, again for the first time in days.
 
From a different perspective, I took a large dose of mdma/mda and three years later im still extremely messed up. MDMA is really insidious and its harmful affects are generally long lasting and subtle as they creep on slowly. In fact the depression sometimes doesnt hit hard until a month or two later, so you naturally attribute it to something else and keep doing the mdma making things worse, sigh. Just quit it all and wait.
 
Drink alot of vitamin water (the power C flavor). Sometimes I take a Vicadin or snort some oxycontin to help come down from it, but Vitamin Water is probably a more advisable alternative ;). Its good to keep focused on positive thoughts and avoid conflict. Stress is harder to deal with when coming down from a roll
 
I can totally relate to your feelings of hopelessness, inability to focus, and just overall sense of sadness in the days after. When you take it with only a few weeks or even a month in between it can really catch up with you. There's a great erowid article about the MDMA hangover with a lot of testimonials. You're not the only one that feels that way at all. The hangover can last from days to literally weeks or even months for some people.

The good news is if you take a lengthy break you will start to feel sharper and better, like you did before. I abused MDMA biweekly at least for about 5 months and it took me a solid 2 months to really feel myself again, but it does come back. I'm not going to say I'll ever 100% be the same but I don't necessarily mean that in a bad way. The feeling like there's nothing to look forward to or care about does go away but the only way to get there is taking a break.
 
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