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[Feedback Thread] How can WE improve on the PD forum? Suggestions welcome!

Aw shucks... *draws swirly line in the dust with his toe whilst looking coquettish and coy* ... sadly technofailz can fail no matter who you are and they can be a bitch to fix :\

I have zero complaints cos I even got to pick my replacement (sort of) and he's a gem and I don't doubt will do a far better job than I ever did. And has a working PC :D

I will be around here and there cos I'm a PD buoy at <3 and always have been... unavoidable stuff gets in the way sometimes though - shitey, dull, technical shite usually... but I think I probably needed a step back anyway so maybe the elves interevned... I'll ask 'em next week ;)

<3 to the much missed PD modbuddies and all my other PD fam. Who knows? I may even find time to start posting in the Social now I've got fuck all to do :D
 
can we get some mandatory bong hits upon entry? perhaps an innation bowl of DMT before posting is permitted?
 
allow us to post the LINKS of where we find our LEGAL substances..(only so people don't get ripped off of my sketchy manufacturers in foreign countries.)
 
^Really not much harm reduction in doing that. Bluelight is a forum which pushes harm reduction AFTER the purchase of drugs.

If links to vendors were allowed, BL would be done with.

And- stuff that is legal in the US may not be in Australia, or Turkey, or Kazakhstan. Theres forums out there for this sort of stuff; just not this one...
 
Not to mention the impact that bluelight might have on the legitimacy of the businesses who sell the legal substance. AKA, bluelight has the potential to make to large of an impact and create a shit storm to the legal drugs that are being sold and the people who sell the drugs.
 
Remove all the non-relevant crap posts aside from the "social thread".
I hit up about half as many threads as I used to, kind of assuming a lot of crap like that is around. I know I'm not everyone and there are lots of lurkers, but come on guys, lets try to set a standard for quality here. This is one of the few public places where you can read/participate in discussion on brand new, extremely rare drugs along with the classics, see first-hand accounts of experiences, read about dangers related to them, learn how to be safe, and get free advice and guidance from those who have traveled the long strange road.

Lets not water it down to the kindergarten level, eh? This place serves a very important purpose.
I can think of a good handful of people who have been posting here a long time who haven't been posting much, or at all. I'd really like to hear from you as to why you're not posting, as that is the main concern in my mind with this.

I too feel like there has been a decline in quality here... well, maybe not. There is still plenty of quality information going around. It's just that there is a higher signal-to-noise ratio these days. I'd like to see less off-topicness in directed threads. It's a fine line, though... I don't want to remove the element of fun from here. I love how we all have fun posting here. But I also don't want to chase people away who only come here sometimes to find things out, and are repelled by all the stuff they have to sort through to find something.

If someone reads the social thread and decides not to post here, then that's their problem, as far as I'm concerned... if they don't want to read it, then they shouldn't read it. The social thread is for fun. What concerns me is when the social thread spills over into the other threads too much.

This was posted in 2008. It still applies. PD has become one big social it seems like. People are posting threads that were originally Drug Culture (or other forum) topics. It clutters up the forum, it's annoying.

Some examples:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=545607
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=545584
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=545626
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=545669
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=545723
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=545401
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=543472
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=542360
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=543576
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=543316
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=543176
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=542484
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=542489

I propose the old guidelines be reinstated, with some small amendments perhaps.
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=74565

The new ones; and particularly the following section, allows this to happen:
Additionally, we discuss a lot of topics here that other focus forums would likely refer to Drug Culture - for example, artists with strong psychedelic influences such as Alex Gray, or discussions of what types of music people like to listen to while tripping. The lines between psychedelics themselves and the art, culture and ideas that surround them can be much blurrier than with many other drugs, and we encourage users to share and discuss things that they think will be of particular interest to fellow psychonauts. In general, if it's about psychedelics, we're happy to discuss it here on PD!
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=528308

I don't know who's idea it was, but I really do not agree with it. PD used to be about quality. Anything goes nowadays, quality or not, as long as you say: "I'm doing psychedelics during this and this activity", it is deemed fine. Why? At least change the forum description to fit the current content, there's nothing advanced about these kind of discussions, imo it's clutter.
 
If it is relevant some how to psychedelic drugs, I don't see why it shouldn't be in PD, such as favorite music to trip to. I don't browse drug culture enough to search find those type of threads.

The speaker thread that was posted above, of course doesn't really belong, but thread such as media related to psychedelics, or psychedelics and media have a thread devoted to that discussion already in PD, they just need to be organized.

It really seems like some of those thread posted above just need more attention via mods, to get them to their appropriate spot in big and dandies or what not.
 
BM you make a lot of good points.
PD currently has 2 mod spots open (not sure why there isnt a Mod App thread up yet).
I remember what a great job you had done with CD (which is also very differnt then a few years ago).
Anyway, id love to see you whip this place back into shape.
 
How is the plans for NYE irrelavent for a psychedelic discussion? Its the same as asking whats your ++++ recipe. You are discussing hopefully related to psychedelic drugs, what you enjoy doing, or plan on doing. NYE is a time where people like to party is it not? Why isn't it relevant for the PD crowd to discuss what they plan on doing tripping wise? It might give good suggestions, like be careful about high doses of psychedelic drugs at parties, or whatever. And these events only come around once a year, with a few major holidays shared by a large part of the world. What is wrong with a few times a year there being a thread (which will be on page two, away from your eyes if it really bothers, you in no time) about what you plan on taking psychedelic wise? Honestly, I'd really hate to see threads like that go.

Seem kinda nit picky, especially when PD has a sense of community to it.

Also, like I said, alot of those threads deal with media, which just need to be moved to their appropriate spot
 
Although I don't really see why some of those threads you linked to have been left open, Blow Monkey, some of them sit just fine with me. I always believed strongly in encouraging the PD community aspect - the PD Family as some call it. That is what gives PD its unique character and brings in folks who find the more dry, strictly informative threads and abstract discussion off-putting rather than it being a bit of a closed talking shop for oldskoolers. Nobody has to open them if they don't like them and they do far more good than harm, in my opinion. PD was once a snooty forum that was pretty daunting and unwelcoming to noobs and those not deeply into psyches. It is now friendly, fun, welcoming and just as informative as ever.

If some oldskool posters no longer find it suits their preferences as well I must admit I think it's a shame and hope they join in with threads like this to explain their frustrations... but the more people feel welcome and at ease posting in PD the better for HR. If that means having more social chit-chat threads then I'm all for it and argued for it when I modded here - feel free to blame me for as much of the social stuff as you like ;)
 
If mod spot opens up, I'd be down to apply for modstickship. I'm around enough to at least clean up some clutter. I also like to think I make some informative posts.
 
I agree. What Cloudy suggests up there is just the kinda PD I like to see myself but also believe strikes the right balance of keeping a communiy alive and entertaining day to day, attracting new folks who become the new oldskool a few years later and also retaining the core purpose of disseminating info, opinion, experience and discussions closely related areas on the cultural side perfectly. There are B&D threads that many of the quickie, fairly throwaway, purely social and jocular threads could easily be moved to to keep the clutter to a minimum and keep the main focus on the info/HR side whilst retaining the community aspect.

Psyches are fun, social drugs that generate many somewhat whacky topics as well as indepth discussions of a more "sober" nature. They also attract very thoughtful, intelligent and knowledgable users who can take part or ignore any aspect that doesn't interest them personally. PD should be a textual trip, in my opinionionion.

PD is consistently in the top three or four most used forums on BL last I saw. That is pretty impressive for a relatively less-used area of drugs, I'd say. Something appears to be working well.
 
There is always place for a middle ground. Create Big and Dandy threads for "psychedelic activities" if it really is deemed necessary. Don't just have them scattered about. Centralize discussion, this alone will already get the forum cleaned up.

PD was once a snooty forum that was pretty daunting and unwelcoming to noobs and those not deeply into psyches. It is now friendly, fun, welcoming and just as informative as ever.

I'm sorry but I agree only to a certain extent. All this socializing detracts from PD and other forums. Why has Drug Culture been created and what purpose does it serve anymore if PD now houses a majority of these kind of topics instead? It should house the social and lighthearted discussions that should be kept out of the focus forums as much as possible. Why detract from other forums? Why do you have to create a community sense in PD alone? Why not venture into other forums instead? This is not EADD where everything under the sun is discussed, it's not a regional forum. This is PD, advanced discussion of psychedelics and dissociatives. Go to other forums and discover the whole of BL instead of this incestuous PD socializing, get a feel for the BL community as a whole, not the "PD community" alone. Now that is snooty.

And yes, I have noticed a decline in quality and informative posts, I'm sorry to say, although the general tone here has improved somewhat. All the "what should I do on", the "look at this cool stuff" or the many other types of topics that are more social and lighthearted in nature than anything else, they can drown out the more informative and insightful posts. I really don't see how it promotes harm discussion all that much. You can be welcoming without having all these social threads as well. Plus, all the basic psychedelic questions seem to permanently stay in PD. Great they can be answered more quickly and accurately sometimes, but when they have been answered, move them to their respective forum, BDD. That would significantly clean up the forum as well. Basic questions are just that, basic, imo they have a place in BDD, not PD. Again, that's why that forum was created, to serve basic questions. There has to be a distinction between forums instead of "trying to keep it all in the (PD) family".

Another suggestion would be to have a more intertwined relationship with the people of ADD. Some of their threads are incredibly informative and a move back and forth here and there could possibly benefit both forums. The creation of ADD meant that parts of PD were sacrificed, which in some ways really is a loss to this forum. I've also noticed, that, while there's certainly a lot more people browsing that forum with great amounts of wisdom than back in the days of it's creation, they have a bit of a problem with keeping it truly advanced. I mean, "DXM has notably improved my intelligence" or "STORAGE bk-MDMA Questions" aren't that advanced that they couldn't be answered by the people of PD, to name just 2 quick examples.

I remember what a great job you had done with CD (which is also very differnt then a few years ago).
Anyway, id love to see you whip this place back into shape.

lol, thanks for the praise, but I didn't exactly leave in good standing, I was dishonourably discharged by being MIA for a long time due to personal issues. Plus, I don't have as many posts here as a moderator should have (at this moment that is). I don't think I would be considered to be up for the job anyways given my replies in this thread, possibly alone out of fear of "scaring people away" from PD. I could give it a try temporarily perhaps if administration obliges, but there are other people who are probably more suited for the job. What I could be useful for though, is cleaning up/organizing some of the big and dandies and getting rid of all that vendor talk which has been going on here, which just annoys me. I tend to be pretty on top of those kind of things, but again, other people could do that too.
 
lol, thanks for the praise, but I didn't exactly leave in good standing, I was dishonourably discharged by being MIA for a long time due to personal issues. Plus, I don't have as many posts here as a moderator should have (at this moment that is). I don't think I would be considered to be up for the job anyways given my replies in this thread, possibly alone out of fear of "scaring people away" from PD. I could give it a try temporarily perhaps if administration obliges, but there are other people who are probably more suited for the job. What I could be useful for though, is cleaning up/organizing some of the big and dandies and getting rid of all that vendor talk which has been going on here, which just annoys me. I tend to be pretty on top of those kind of things, but again, other people could do that too.

the bolded part is precisely why i think you would make a good mod.

When i first became a PD mod i tried to stay on top of that, but after awhile it gets very redundant and boring. I stepped down precisely because i felt that i wasnt doing modding duties as much as i should have been and felt that new blood would do a better a job.

And while the social and drug culture threads dont bother me, i do agree that they should be centralized in a B+D thread, and that BDD questions should be answered and than the thread closed or merged with its appropriate B+D.

Other areas of BL arent always so welcoming and friendly, so when someone chooses to ask a question here it feels rude to send them elsewhere when we could just answer it here.
 
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