[Feedback Thread] How can WE improve on the PD forum? Suggestions welcome!
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Aeon Psyche
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You can improve by opening the telepathy thread. I found it to be very interesting. Not just one moderater's opinion should decide whether or not it should be closed as everyone has a different opinion on such subjects and I'm sure this hasn't been disscussed before.
OPENmindedness, thank you
The conversation could have gone in so many possible interesting directions.
My 2 cents.
OPENmindedness, thank you
The conversation could have gone in so many possible interesting directions.My 2 cents.
fastandbulbous
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^ Well if you start one and don't post (or reference) the gibberish the original poster did, I'd be happy to back you all the way. It wasn't the topic that got it closed, it was the deranged ranting that started it
Jabberwocky
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please do not delete my outdoor mushroom thread. I'm trying to lure MJShroomer here to tell us stories of really weird mushroom species he's found outside on his travels.
swilow
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^I'd rather you hadn't re-strated it without us talking, but go for it, as you apparently will anyway. 8)
Hmm. Open-mindedness? Why do you think that thread was shut? It wasn't because of telepathy or any such thing; it was because it was rambling nonsense.
Sorry, but you have the wrong idea then. Thats exactly what moderators are here for; you might think the decision is based on lack of interest in the subject matter or belief, but its nothing of tbe sort. Probably 85% of the threads here have already been re-done, so if it was becauese of repetition, every thread would be get shut![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
That thread was shut because it was not true- ie. the description of telepethy, serotonin etc. was utterly incorrect. Thts the only problem with it.
Anyway, this thread is not for raising your own individual grievances; please PM a mod for that. I dunno, doing things in a public thread, ie. making your opinion felt is kinda peer-pressure I feel. Aeon, you know to PM moderators; please just do that if you want to discuss a specific thread.
As we have said, in this thread, NUMEROUS-ZUMEROUS TIMES, any thread that is shut- can be re-opened if you simply PM A MODERATOR. We are asking for suggestions to improve the whole forum, not just one individual thread.
Personally, I think PD is in goode shape.
Aeon Psyche said:You can improve by opening the telepathy thread. I found it to be very interesting. Not just one moderater's opinion should decide whether or not it should be closed as everyone has a different opinion on such subjects and I'm sure this hasn't been disscussed before.
OPENmindedness, thank you
My 2 cents.
Hmm. Open-mindedness? Why do you think that thread was shut? It wasn't because of telepathy or any such thing; it was because it was rambling nonsense.
Sorry, but you have the wrong idea then. Thats exactly what moderators are here for; you might think the decision is based on lack of interest in the subject matter or belief, but its nothing of tbe sort. Probably 85% of the threads here have already been re-done, so if it was becauese of repetition, every thread would be get shut
That thread was shut because it was not true- ie. the description of telepethy, serotonin etc. was utterly incorrect. Thts the only problem with it.Anyway, this thread is not for raising your own individual grievances; please PM a mod for that. I dunno, doing things in a public thread, ie. making your opinion felt is kinda peer-pressure I feel. Aeon, you know to PM moderators; please just do that if you want to discuss a specific thread.
As we have said, in this thread, NUMEROUS-ZUMEROUS TIMES, any thread that is shut- can be re-opened if you simply PM A MODERATOR. We are asking for suggestions to improve the whole forum, not just one individual thread.
Personally, I think PD is in goode shape.
Jabberwocky
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I agree swilow! You guys are doing a very good job at being open-minded mods, PD is the healthiest its ever been!
Hey Aeon psyche, my two cents, but you should start another thread on telepathy if you want to talk about it in a thoughtful manner. I would love to hear your (and others') thoughts on this matter. What you might not know is that poster (paranoia) has a track record for making incoherent posts with 'facts' that are more often than not completely and totally incorrect.
Its not just one moderator being against him, its everybody who cares about legitimate dissemination of information that is against that kind of stuff.
but please, lets talk about telepathy and psychedelics in a thoughtful way (there's some weird stuff going on there for sure).
Hey Aeon psyche, my two cents, but you should start another thread on telepathy if you want to talk about it in a thoughtful manner. I would love to hear your (and others') thoughts on this matter. What you might not know is that poster (paranoia) has a track record for making incoherent posts with 'facts' that are more often than not completely and totally incorrect.
Its not just one moderator being against him, its everybody who cares about legitimate dissemination of information that is against that kind of stuff.
but please, lets talk about telepathy and psychedelics in a thoughtful way (there's some weird stuff going on there for sure).
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swilow said:^I'd rather you hadn't re-strated it without us talking, but go for it, as you apparently will anyway. 8)
Hmm. Open-mindedness? Why do you think that thread was shut? It wasn't because of telepathy or any such thing; it was because it was rambling nonsense.
Sorry, but you have the wrong idea then. Thats exactly what moderators are here for; you might think the decision is based on lack of interest in the subject matter or belief, but its nothing of tbe sort. Probably 85% of the threads here have already been re-done, so if it was becauese of repetition, every thread would be get shut
Anyway, this thread is not for raising your own individual grievances; please PM a mod for that. I dunno, doing things in a public thread, ie. making your opinion felt is kinda peer-pressure I feel. Aeon, you know to PM moderators; please just do that if you want to discuss a specific thread.
As we have said, in this thread, NUMEROUS-ZUMEROUS TIMES, any thread that is shut- can be re-opened if you simply PM A MODERATOR. We are asking for suggestions to improve the whole forum, not just one individual thread.
Personally, I think PD is in goode shape.
It is in good shape but just like the universe we will always try to improve it or make it grow or both.
And if what he said doesn't made any sense at all, PROVE IT PLEASE. I also didn't know there was any ranting inside the thread, maybe you just should have editted out that part instead of closing the whole thing? I'll try to Pm mods more often when something arrises but I read on another site once that one of the mods was a cop...Probably Bullshit. You know how those days were. heheAnd I always find decisions should be made by democratic systems rather than people that are in solely in charge of things. The ideas of many are much more worth than the idea of a single leader. Don't you agree?
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swilow
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^No moderators are cops man. I must say, it makes for a good laughthough. Mybe your a cop? 
Yep. Just not here If we had to have everyone give their input on every thread, as to whether we leave it open or whatnot, then nothing would get done. Anyway, as you'll note with a careful SCRU-TIN-ISING is that we have more then one mod; perhaps even 5....very different indivudals, plus we have several senior mods, who also make such decisions.
The whole thing is- Bluelight is not structured on democratic grounds. Mods aren't chosen by election; they either nominate themselves or are invited; and once in place, the idea is that the mods are simply here to make overriding decisions on forum matters; like a dictator basically, but with a bit more lvoe and joy :D
If you think the telepthy thread was shut because of the actual subjectmatter, your wrong. It wasn't actually about psychedelics; it was also...ahem, nonsense. Interesting yes- but not factual, and thats wherein lies the problem.
Prove that seroquel isn't a tryptamine? When offering a hypothesis, the onus is not on the repsondent, but the theorist to prove the truth of what they say. I mean, I know that serotonin is not the only neurotransmitter in the brain....two aspects of the thread that didn't make sense, and to the mods negated any real meaning in the thread. As to editing, put your own self-editors on. It takes two to tango. I think we are line danicng here.
Anyway, stay tuned for a telepthy thread.
Yep. Just not here
If we had to have everyone give their input on every thread, as to whether we leave it open or whatnot, then nothing would get done. Anyway, as you'll note with a careful SCRU-TIN-ISING is that we have more then one mod; perhaps even 5....very different indivudals, plus we have several senior mods, who also make such decisions.The whole thing is- Bluelight is not structured on democratic grounds. Mods aren't chosen by election; they either nominate themselves or are invited; and once in place, the idea is that the mods are simply here to make overriding decisions on forum matters; like a dictator basically, but with a bit more lvoe and joy :D
If you think the telepthy thread was shut because of the actual subjectmatter, your wrong. It wasn't actually about psychedelics; it was also...ahem, nonsense. Interesting yes- but not factual, and thats wherein lies the problem.
Prove that seroquel isn't a tryptamine? When offering a hypothesis, the onus is not on the repsondent, but the theorist to prove the truth of what they say. I mean, I know that serotonin is not the only neurotransmitter in the brain....two aspects of the thread that didn't make sense, and to the mods negated any real meaning in the thread. As to editing, put your own self-editors on. It takes two to tango. I think we are line danicng here.
Anyway, stay tuned for a telepthy thread.
Jabberwocky
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Bluelight is not a democracy, btw.
Your ideas count and are relevant to the discussion, but ultimately the moderators, administrators, engineer, and owner can and will override your ideas if they think they are bad.
Your ideas count and are relevant to the discussion, but ultimately the moderators, administrators, engineer, and owner can and will override your ideas if they think they are bad.
B9
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Gaian Planes said:I agree swilow! You guys are doing a very good job at being open-minded mods, PD is the healthiest its ever been!
Thanks Mr Smiles :D
But that was preordained with a username like paranoia
Quite the mushroomers board at the moment - three threads on page one. By the end of the weekend the entire first page might be mushroom based
Xorkoth
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Aeon Psyche, I appreciate your concerns... I know that you have good intentions with raising them and I just want you to know that you're definitely a valuable member of this community - a community tied together by a mutual love of psychedelics and all that involves them and, hopefully (at least in my case) love for one another and our fellow man in general.
That said, it's not a democracy, by design. The moderators are here to make decisions to keep the place running smoothly, and perhaps above all, at least in my mind, to help Bluelight to be an efficient database of knowledge for the purpose of educating its members and all future members and browsers. We strive to be as coherent and useable as possible for people who are randomly navigating here during a web search or something, so that they're able to quickly find accurate and pertinent information. We as members can sometimes forget that it's not all for us. At PD, we're lucky to be able to enjoy an environment that is both useful and efficient (or so I hope), as well as friendly and social and loving. In order to maintain this environment, we need to make some decisions that may not make everyone happy. In the case of the telepathy thread, the decision was made to close it because the thread contained quite a bit of just plain incorrect assertions, and it was barely comprensible, especially to someone peeking in who doesn't really know anything about psychedelics, but is trying to learn. Imagine this person. Do you really want that thread to be part of their initial impression of psychedelics? Regardless of its content, it was posted in PD, so an outsider is immediately going to correlate it to psychedelics and by extension to psychedelic use. And I mean, Serquel is just simply not a tryptamine. We don't want to allow that sort of information to be disseminated. And considering that your average person's drug education consists of whatever their friend told them they heard from his sister's boyfriend's dealer's cousin, people will believe anything, and oftentimke they will choose to believe whatever they encounter first on a search for information.
None of us were trying to say that telepathy is not a good topic to discuss here. I would love to discuss telepathy as I have had some thought-provoking experiences relating to it. But we decided that the thread we closed just didn't have enough redeeming qualities to be a good jump-off point for it. Feel free to start your own topic about it... I'd join the discussion.
And finally, there's no need for the whole The Man archetype to come into play here... you seem (and perhaps I am incorrect here) to establish a distinction between the moderators and the regular members, an "us vs them" mentality. try to remember that we're just the same as you, except we were chosen to have power to moderate the content of the forum. We don't have some secretly nefarious intentions... we want what is best for the forum and for everyone here, just as I presume you do. I'm just some 25 year old guy named Eric who loves psychedelics and is tripping right now as a matter of fact. :D
That is all.
That said, it's not a democracy, by design. The moderators are here to make decisions to keep the place running smoothly, and perhaps above all, at least in my mind, to help Bluelight to be an efficient database of knowledge for the purpose of educating its members and all future members and browsers. We strive to be as coherent and useable as possible for people who are randomly navigating here during a web search or something, so that they're able to quickly find accurate and pertinent information. We as members can sometimes forget that it's not all for us. At PD, we're lucky to be able to enjoy an environment that is both useful and efficient (or so I hope), as well as friendly and social and loving. In order to maintain this environment, we need to make some decisions that may not make everyone happy. In the case of the telepathy thread, the decision was made to close it because the thread contained quite a bit of just plain incorrect assertions, and it was barely comprensible, especially to someone peeking in who doesn't really know anything about psychedelics, but is trying to learn. Imagine this person. Do you really want that thread to be part of their initial impression of psychedelics? Regardless of its content, it was posted in PD, so an outsider is immediately going to correlate it to psychedelics and by extension to psychedelic use. And I mean, Serquel is just simply not a tryptamine. We don't want to allow that sort of information to be disseminated. And considering that your average person's drug education consists of whatever their friend told them they heard from his sister's boyfriend's dealer's cousin, people will believe anything, and oftentimke they will choose to believe whatever they encounter first on a search for information.
None of us were trying to say that telepathy is not a good topic to discuss here. I would love to discuss telepathy as I have had some thought-provoking experiences relating to it. But we decided that the thread we closed just didn't have enough redeeming qualities to be a good jump-off point for it. Feel free to start your own topic about it... I'd join the discussion.
And finally, there's no need for the whole The Man archetype to come into play here... you seem (and perhaps I am incorrect here) to establish a distinction between the moderators and the regular members, an "us vs them" mentality. try to remember that we're just the same as you, except we were chosen to have power to moderate the content of the forum. We don't have some secretly nefarious intentions... we want what is best for the forum and for everyone here, just as I presume you do. I'm just some 25 year old guy named Eric who loves psychedelics and is tripping right now as a matter of fact. :D
That is all.
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Gaian Planes said:
Oh noes! Dictatorship! You know, with more advanced civilisations they sometimes use a group of elders who are selected on the basis of their intelligence, integrity and a few more posivite things towards their whole community to "rule". The mods should work together to and maybe it would be a good idea if not just anyone could apply as a moderator or whatever but should fullfill certain qualities to see if they are fit enough for the job.
But with free jobs :/
Xorkoth
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What you describe is pretty much exactly the way I see this place currently being. The mods are a group of members who have put in a lot of time and effort here previously to becoming moderators... we were trusted members of the community who were then raised to mdoerator status because there was a need for a position to fill and we were considered the best candidates.
I think the very existence of this thread points to our efforts to cater to the desires of the entire community. Do you disagree? Do you feel our efforts are misdirected or not geniune?
I think the very existence of this thread points to our efforts to cater to the desires of the entire community. Do you disagree? Do you feel our efforts are misdirected or not geniune?
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Xorkoth said:Aeon Psyche, I appreciate your concerns... I know that you have good intentions with raising them and I just want you to know that you're definitely a valuable member of this community - a community tied together by a mutual love of psychedelics and all that involves them and, hopefully (at least in my case) love for one another and our fellow man in general.
Thank you so much. :D That's a great start for my day after waking up from the floor in a mess. I want you to know the feeling is mutual
That said, it's not a democracy, by design. The moderators are here to make decisions to keep the place running smoothly, and perhaps above all, at least in my mind, to help Bluelight to be an efficient database of knowledge for the purpose of educating its members and all future members and browsers. We strive to be as coherent and useable as possible for people who are randomly navigating here during a web search or something, so that they're able to quickly find accurate and pertinent information. We as members can sometimes forget that it's not all for us. At PD, we're lucky to be able to enjoy an environment that is both useful and efficient (or so I hope), as well as friendly and social and loving. In order to maintain this environment, we need to make some decisions that may not make everyone happy.
I agree.
In the case of the telepathy thread, the decision was made to close it because the thread contained quite a bit of just plain incorrect assertions, and it was barely comprensible, especially to someone peeking in who doesn't really know anything about psychedelics, but is trying to learn. Imagine this person. Do you really want that thread to be part of their initial impression of psychedelics? Regardless of its content, it was posted in PD, so an outsider is immediately going to correlate it to psychedelics and by extension to psychedelic use. And I mean, Serquel is just simply not a tryptamine. We don't want to allow that sort of information to be disseminated. And considering that your average person's drug education consists of whatever their friend told them they heard from his sister's boyfriend's dealer's cousin, people will believe anything, and oftentimke they will choose to believe whatever they encounter first on a search for information.
So why didn't you just correct him instead of shutting him up? We are meant to learn "here'.
None of us were trying to say that telepathy is not a good topic to discuss here. I would love to discuss telepathy as I have had some thought-provoking experiences relating to it. But we decided that the thread we closed just didn't have enough redeeming qualities to be a good jump-off point for it. Feel free to start your own topic about it... I'd join the discussion.
I just might.
And finally, there's no need for the whole The Man archetype to come into play here... you seem (and perhaps I am incorrect here) to establish a distinction between the moderators and the regular members, an "us vs them" mentality. try to remember that we're just the same as you, except we were chosen to have power to moderate the content of the forum. We don't have some secretly nefarious intentions... we want what is best for the forum and for everyone here, just as I presume you do. I'm just some 25 year old guy named Eric who loves psychedelics and is tripping right now as a matter of fact. :D
That is all.
Please do not think that I think that of you or any of the other moderators in any way. I know you're trying to help and that's a great thing. I wouldn't even find the time to moderate a whole forum or a section that is so active. We, or atleast I appreciate you and the others their hard work to maintain the forum to the best of it's capabilities.
Xorkoth
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Well then, let's resume the PD cuddle-puddle. 
Jabberwocky
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aww hehe just wanted to point out everybody how terribly cute this line is :DXorkoth said:I'm just some 25 year old guy named Eric who loves psychedelics and is tripping right now as a matter of fact. :D
That is all.
swilow
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^I smiled with fatherly affection when I read it.
Oddly enough I am also just a 25 year old guy- however, named Sam, but yes, I too like to trip.
Its a good ide, but my mod capacities don't allow me to edit as such. I shall discourse with my fellow modulators and see what they think....
Oddly enough I am also just a 25 year old guy- however, named Sam, but yes, I too like to trip.
filikins said:
Its a good ide, but my mod capacities don't allow me to edit as such. I shall discourse with my fellow modulators and see what they think....
Shambles
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Sammy Smiles said:aww hehe just wanted to point out everybody how terribly cute this line is :D
Mr Swilow said:
:D I'm a smidge older... but it is pretty darned adorable and I also like to trip :D As to the question? Can PD be improved? Not by very much
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Xorkoth
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So what exactly are you saying, Shambles? That it's not perfect?? Well, sir, I resent that sentiment! 