FDA: Reformulated OxyContin Might Have 'Advantage'

i dont know about the corruption, but an old friend's mom was a drug rep and my GOD she had the coolest fucking ink pens i've ever seen....some of them looked like they could turn into a lightsaber if you click the button on top or said the secret password. man.
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I just love bluelight. There is always at least one person in these threads to say something ridiculous like this that makes it all worth reading.
 
caseface99 said:
I wonder if the gel would just clog the shit out of a micron filter or not. Anyone ever try with a generic that gels up?
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I was wondering the same thing case ... Before I learned how to use them properly, I would take an entire crushed oxy and back fill a syringe then run it through a micron filter only to find out that extracting was extremely fucking difficult. Then a good friend from this website told me to suck it up through cotton first micron filtrate it ... Well DUH! Not sure why I didn't think of that originally.

I don't see how you could extract these with a micron filter. Those filters rare prone to clogging as they are, not to mention you MIGHT get 1 or 2 pills extracted with th majority if the oxycodone remaining bound to the gel in the top half of the filter. And at a cost of $6 per filter, your price per dose just skyrocketed.

Buck
 
booyams_tx; said:
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/08/slides/2008-4356s1-05-Purdue.pdf

go to page 55 it shows pics of them trying to inject the new vs the old oc formula....
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Page 58, first table, Complex Solvent 1 yielded the largest amount of oxycodone. Therefore we need:

1) Ingredients of that solvent
2) The procedure for extracting with that solvent.
3) A big FUCK YOU to the greedy white and nerdy ass faces who can't just let grown ups be grown ups. The government knows what's best for us and they'll shove it down our throats whether we like it, need it, or not.

And to whomever mentioned the microwave / cooking method to defeat the gel ... It doesn't work - ive tried it many times.

Buck
 
There's a very active thread on defeating the new OC's in the Other Drugs forum. It's perpetually on the first page, and I can't see it dropping off anytime soon.
 
In a few years we can tell new addicts of the glory days when oxys were 0.50 a mg and were fun to crush and snort.


In all seriousness though, will this lead to a rise in heroin rates? OC addicts turned off by the new pills going to dope? I know I did not care for the new OCs, but I am definitely not going to heroin.
 
Obviously there will be some people who switch from OC's to dope.

I think the bulk majority of people will switch to other pharmies, or stop getting high.

Almost all of the OC users I've met would never do heroin.

I think thats part of why OC was so appealing...it could get you nearly as high as heroin but it didn't have that stigma attached to it.

I'd say most people (casual users) who wouldn't think twice about snorting an oxy wouldn't even consider snorting heroin.
 
this is the most idiotic idea. people are just going to be doing more damage to get less of a high. its going to fuck up their veins and shit because they are gonna do it any way. why not make it healthier for them, if nothing you're going to do will prevent it any way.
 
First let me introduce myself...
Been on 80 OC's for 5+ years. I prefer IV for anything (don't
consider myself a "Junkie" because I save that label for those who
use no discretion about what rig they use to get their fix. I always
use new ones or none at all). But call me what you want...
OK, I read a post somewhere about using a conventional oven at
250 degrees F for 30 minutes etc. So I tried that and followed the
instructions to the "T" and it worked OK. But having little patience
I thought I would try to adapt it to the microwave instead.
So here's what I did...
1. Leave the coating on the pill, and place it on a microwavable
plate.(I prefer a "Pyrex" pie pan/plate).
2. Using a 1000 watt microwave oven, cook on "High" for 2
minutes. Remove and flip the pill over, then place in microwave
again for another 2 minutes. Repeat once more, but for 3 minutes
this time.
3. Remove quickly, and immediately smash the crap out of it with
a spoon (A twisting spiral motion helps a lot) until it is as thin as
possible.
4. Return it to the microwave as before and cook for another 2
minutes, and remove quickly as before and smash with spoon
again (This time it should stick to your spoon, and parts will be
somewhat translucent) until all of it is stuck to the spoon.
5. Scrape from spoon as soon as it cools off (At this point it
should have a hard plastic consistency) .
6. Now, using sharp scissors, cut the pill matter as fine as possible
(2-3mm is perfect).
7. Put pill matter in a large spoon, add 200 units of water and
immediately heat on stove-top. As soon as it comes to a rolling
boil remove from heat and stir/mix/smash with big end of plunger
then add another 100 units of water and return to stove-top
until it comes to a boil, and remove.
8. Using a large piece of cigarette filter that has been fluffed and
wet with water draw/filter your Oxy water and enjoy!

If you are unsuccessful, then you probably didn't do it exactly as
I said. Even though it may never quite reach the level of the old
ones, you will definitely feel and taste it (you can also milk them
"Bones")!
 
PepperSocks said:
Yeah, I have CDN imprint ones (I'm in Canada). They don't crush up well at all but that's okay for me because I just dose orally using liquid measurment.

One CDN 80 is good for 16 doses to me. I just dissolve the stuff and fine as I can get it in a 10mg/mL solution of 95% ethanol. Eventually the ethanol reduces it all the teeny particles which is just binders. From there I can just measure out my dose; dissolve it in a little water and swallow.

Not a good idea to inject 95% ethanol though. Sorry IV users; still works fine for IR oral use. :)
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They haven't changed anything for the CDN OC's in canada. They crush up just as easy and no different than the old ones before the patent as well. I believe Canada is going to get the patent for the new OP's just not any time soon. I get my script of 20's in 5 days and willing to bet my life savings they are still old formulation.

Ohhhhhh CAAANNAAAADDAAAAAA.
 
Wow! I had no idea that info was available to the G.P! Thanks much Cig3f!

This really is some complicated data to decipher. I become so interested in this topic that I joined Bluelight! Anonymously of course!
I'm hoping that you are still available for PM and that I could clarify some discrepancies. There are hundreds of claims, involving rpm, in-vitro dissolution rates, etc, and I haven't even completely reviewed the claims application.

Any assistance you could offer me in my research would be highly appreciated,
Thanks in advance,

Fuelfer.
 
DMFNR said:
I remember the generics I got would gel up in your nose and and feel like they got you half as high. And when you crushed them and no matter how hard I smashed on those fuckers there were still chunks left which I think might affect absorbsion orally. So if it ends up like that use one of those hope clamps to grind it up to a fine powder
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Yeah i remember those generic Ocycontin 40's and 80's ( the oval ones ) man i fucking hated those, they always left those hard beads that would never break so what i would do was crush them until it was nothing but powder and those beads then separate as many of the beads out as possible and snort the powder and eat the beads, it burned like a motherfucker but it worked a lot better than just snorting it all together.
 
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